Okay, yet another old fart who chimes in here (and look, I am top-posting! ;).
I have to say there is something wonderful and amazing about joining into a global conversation centered around a topic that we all enjoy greatly, especially because there aren't enough people within earshot who are interested in the topic? In other words: do all of the exchanges in life have to be the hours/days of think time between utterances? Should we not appreciate each medium for what it is? Robby On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 12:17 AM, George Neuner <[email protected]> wrote: > > As another "old fart", I have to chime in here. > > > On Mon, 6 Feb 2017 17:38:21 +0530, Abhinav Sharma > <[email protected]> wrote: > >>On the other hand, we could still be using IRC instead of Slack/Gitter. >>It's good experience that "old" people see through these differences but >>new users would be expecting these more and more. > > > Your experience may be different, but I find chat absolutely useless > for any kind of meaningful discussion. Take more than 30 seconds to > compose a message and the other participants start wondering whether > or not you have left. > > Writing a detailed message may take minutes, or hours. It may be days > (or weeks) before you have the required information. With email - or > equivalently a posting group - you can take the time necessary to > write something concise and meaningful rather than spew a bunch of > semi-coordinated thoughts. > > > Then too, I appreciate that people who see my questions and are > inclined to help are busy themselves and that considerable time may > pass before they have a chance to respond (other than maybe to say > "I'll have to get back to you"). > > <flame> > The problem as I see it is not "new" users per se, but *young* users > who have been conditioned by texting, IM, etc. to expect immediate > gratification. They prefer "rendezvous" communication because waiting > for an asynchronous response, by email or whatever, inconveniences > *them*. Only rarely do they consider whether an in-person "meeting" > might be inconveniencing someone else. > > The same could be said of the old game of "telephone tag", but many > young people today have never heard of it. 8-) > </flame> > > > Now, unlike the annoying desktop IM client that your boss insists you > leave open, I do realize that the people hanging out on IRC, etc. are > there because they want to be ... but (presumably) willing > participation can't compensate for the inherent difficulty of carrying > on a meaningful conversation there. > > This message took ~5 minutes to compose: it would not have been a very > good candidate for a chat session. ;-) > > > YMMV. Apologies for ranting, but you struck a nerve. > George > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Racket Developers" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-dev/ppji9ctouvdr5bel22hacnf77h31rpkj0c%404ax.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Racket Developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-dev/CAL3TdOMWGD1VT6LfA5i3UEz6NOC16XauRU-hGULJJ2VnqAP2UQ%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
