I don't know how much you involve yourself in the actual making of things
(it might be a principle of yours to leave everything practical to your
son and to only help with concepts), but couldn't it be useful to simply
make a macro like a `(place-images* ([imag1 x y] ...))` or the like? Maybe
it's one of those "now you have two problems!" type of situations and not
suitable for the context, I don't know.
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015, John Carmack wrote:
The idea that you functionally compose images like this:
(place-image image-1 x y
(place-image image-2 x y
(place-image image-3 x y)))
Which draws image1 on top of image2 on top of image 3, which is backwards from the
"painters order" that would draw image 3, then image 2, then image 1.
This imperative, side-effect-ing code is a little less clear to a beginner with
the OOP and DC concepts, but It better represents what actually happens, and it
is much easier to modify the code without worrying about the nesting.
(send dc draw-bitmap imag3 x y)
(send dc draw-bitmap imag2 x y)
(send dc draw-bitmap imag1 x y)
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Subject: [racket-users] Re: My son's game in Racket
On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 12:28:07 PM UTC-4, John Carmack wrote:
We “released” my 10 year old son’s game that was done in Racket:
www.1k3c.com
I’m still taking a little heat from my wife for using an obscure
language instead of something mainstream that is broadly used in industry, but
I have nothing but good things to say about using Racket and DrRacket for a
beginning programmer, and highly recommend it.
I can’t recommend 2htdp/universe for this sort of thing, though. I
had to drop to the native GUI bitmaps for performance reasons, hack around the
lifecycle to support a separate editor window, and I still don’t know how to
make the Quit menu item actually exit the app on the Mac version.
I completely understand the reasoning for the way 2htdp/universe is
built, and saying that a “real” project should use the grown-up APIs is fine,
but the evolution from making a little animation to controlling it somehow to
fleshing it out into a game is so natural that recommending a fairly big
rewrite is unfortunate.
I’m a big booster of functional programming, but I’m not sure that the
functional drawing paradigm ever really sank in while my son was working with
it, rather it felt like you just drew everything backwards with missing
parenthesis at the end. I suspect that using the standard imperative GUI
drawing code will make perfect sense to him.
I’m not sure yet if we are going to migrate to the regular GUI code for
upcoming work, or jump all the way to OpenGL so he can learn the joys of “Why
is the screen all black?”
Not clear what was meant both times you wrote "backwards" are you referring to
the lisp-style function call? Something that could be alleviated by say F#'s pipe forward
operator?
let (|>) a f = f a
or Clojure's -> macro?
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