I wouldn't want to give up stepping the definitions window. When a student has a question about how something they've written works, it's usually written down in the definitions window, and I like being able to just start stepping that. More generally, I just don't use the interactions window that much, and so moving stepping to only there would be a big change that I don't see a pedagogical upside to.
What is the "check-syntax problem", by the way? Sam On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 4:56 PM, Matthias Felleisen <matth...@ccs.neu.edu> wrote: > > The difference is that we can simplify the stepper if all we ever evaluate > are expressions in the IA. For example, the check-syntax problem could go > away. > > I suspect the simplified presentation would also become more accessible to > most students than the current evaluation of many little expressions that > they forgot where expressions in the first place. > > But yes, from the perspective of (1) minimal work and (2) ease of use, this > works fine, too. > > > > > > >> On Oct 20, 2016, at 4:52 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt <sa...@cs.indiana.edu> >> wrote: >> >> I was thinking that the button at the top works the same as now, and >> that while it's open, everything goes to the stepper. That would work >> well for me in class. >> >> Sam >> >> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 4:52 PM, Matthias Felleisen >> <matth...@ccs.neu.edu> wrote: >>> >>> How do you open the stepper window in the first place? I think the stepper >>> button for the DA could go away. That would simplify John’s life a bit. But >>> if you are saying >>> >>> — the button in the IA opens the stepper window >>> — and the stepper works until closed >>> >>> I am fine with that too. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Oct 20, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt <sa...@cs.indiana.edu> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> What if entering expressions at the interactions window _while the >>>> stepper window is open_ caused them to be stepped? >>>> >>>> Sam >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Matthias Felleisen >>>> <matth...@ccs.neu.edu> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 20, 2016, at 4:44 PM, John Clements <cleme...@brinckerhoff.org> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2016, at 12:32 PM, Matthias Felleisen <matth...@ccs.neu.edu> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2016, at 3:20 PM, John Clements <cleme...@brinckerhoff.org> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think you probably want an interface that steps a single expression >>>>>>>> and then reverts to the standard mode. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Exactly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My preference would be to have a ‘button’ like feature at the top-right >>>>>>> of the IA for *SLs. By default, it is disabled. If a programmer clicks >>>>>>> on it, the evaluations in the REPL show the steps from now on until >>>>>>> either the next click or the next RUN of the DA. >>>>>> >>>>>> It doesn’t *sound* like we’re in agreement :)… I’m thinking that the >>>>>> mode should revert to RUN after the next expression is entered in the >>>>>> interactions window. >>>>>> >>>>>> Let me see if I can hack something together. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> :-) >>>>> >>>>> I think we’re in agreement on (1) it’s easy to switch and (2) it reverts >>>>> ‘soon-ish’ to the normal run mode. The little grey scale of ‘soon-ish’ is >>>>> a minor hickup in our decades-long search for common ground :)) >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "Racket Users" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to racket-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Racket Users" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to racket-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Racket Users" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to racket-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Racket Users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to racket-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
