For everyone else, the essay is NOT about Turing/the language or Turing/the man 
but Turing, the concept. 

And because it is true that we have monopoly power over students here, not a 
single required course forces students to use Racket. In our freshman course we 
use the teaching languages, explicitly clarify that they are useless for the 
real world, and that we do so to focus on the importance of problem solving, 
code design, and attitude about code design. In PL, we use #lang plai with a 
similar explanation. 

— Matthias





> On Aug 24, 2018, at 10:50 AM, Sanjeev Sharma <throw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> "Turing is useless" ... 
> 
> While I worked as a programmer I used to complain quite bitterly about 
> university comp sci departments that had NIH (not invented here) syndrome and 
>  a captive audience. 
> 
> I learned Turing as my 2nd programming language.  I'm sure the only reason it 
> could have been taught is the profs & grad students that "invented" (added a 
> few trivial things to Pascal) Turing had great political pull at University 
> of Toronto in that decade. 
> 
> On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 9:02:47 AM UTC-4, Matthias Felleisen wrote:
> 
> > On Aug 24, 2018, at 5:50 AM, Jérôme Martin <jerome.m...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> > 
> > I just read the article by Matt that was posted on Hacker News 
> > (http://felleisen.org/matthias/OnHtDP/index.html) and I wanted to take the 
> > time to thank you all in the PLT/Racket team. 
> > 
> > Thank you for trying (and achieving!) to bring a new approach to teaching 
> > computer science. Improving teaching methods is a hard process and you have 
> > the courage and will to fight for it, against all odds. 
> > I'm glad some people are here to train students into a broader approach to 
> > program design and eventually become way better programmers than we are. 
> > 
> > I discovered Racket one year ago and had the feeling I finally found the 
> > language, and most importantly the community, that brings me hope and make 
> > me feel like computer science is more than just about computers. 
> > You are making a language that feels like writing code is actually a form 
> > of art sometimes, and it makes me see my profession with a new eye. 
> > 
> > (define congrats (map thank plt-team)) 
> > 
> > I wish all of you a great time teaching with Racket. 
> > 
> > I'll be sticking around improving some libs (especially web-server). 
> > 
> > See you around folks :) 
> 
> 
> I am glad you found us. Spread the word and stay around — Matthias 
> 
> 
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