On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 10:26 PM Tom Gillespie <tgb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Neil mentioned Ryan's work on this in the thread about hacker news. There are > a number of issues with getting jupyter to play nicely with #langs some of > which I have submitted a pr for, but my solution is partial and very > suboptimal. A drracket-like solution, even just for kernels is likely not > trivial. Matthew Butterick and Jay came up with a solution for embedding > languages that uses #lang at-exp which might point a way to a potential > solution, but might be barking up the wrong tree. As a side note the jupyter > ecosystem is in the middle of transitioning from notebook to lab and last > time I checked there seem to have been breaking changes which caused iracket > to fail, though that my just have been on my setup.
Ah! I had no idea. I didn't follow that other thread, and didn't see an entry in the Jupyter Kernels list so just assumed this was not a thing yet. Thanks for pointing out the reference to existing work here! > On Thursday, December 27, 2018 at 12:53:13 AM UTC-5, Andrew Gwozdziewycz > wrote: >> >> It seems like the better bang for buck might be implementing a Jupyter >> kernel, and leveraging that ecosystem. >> >> https://github.com/jupyter/jupyter/wiki/Jupyter-kernels >> >> On Dec 20, 2018, at 02:46, Neil Van Dyke <ne...@neilvandyke.org> wrote: >> >> If anyone is looking to avoid relatives over the winter holiday season, >> here's an idea for a big feature to add to DrRacket (which I really wish I >> could do myself right now)... >> >> If you've not seen a "notebook" interface, like in Jupyter Notebook and some >> other data science-oriented tools, one way to look at it is like a literate >> programming REPL that can be edited, stored to a file, and loaded. You can >> also share these notebooks with others, or generate formats like HTML or >> Markdown (such as for blog posts). >> >> The notebook is a document that's a sequence of text cells and code cells, >> and the code cells include the output (e.g., expression results, displayed >> plots) from the last time the code cell was evaluated (if it was). Each >> code cell also displays a small serial number that indicates in what order >> it was last evaluated (if it has been), which is not necessarily the >> top-to-bottom order of the document while you're working with it. Of >> course, you can clear this code evaluation and output at any time, and cause >> all the code cells to be evaluated in-order. >> >> IIRC, DrRacket emphasizes the Definitions window over the Interactions >> window (aka REPL), to reduce confusion for students. I think the confusion >> level of the Notebook interface is somewhere between that of Definitions >> window and a REPL. So the notebook interface might not be good for new >> students, unless they're already comfortable with the notebook interface >> from other classes. >> >> Implementation-wise... the people here who built DrRacket can correct me or >> say more about this, but it seems DrRacket implementation might already >> include most of the difficult work of implementing a notebook interface. >> The evaluation engine is there, and there's UI for snips in the Interaction >> window, and UI for embedding blocks of other formats in the Definitions >> window. Maybe combine/adapt that in a new Notebook window, or implement >> this as features of the Definitions window. Then you can decide whether to >> also implement the JSON save format of Jupyter Notebook, for possible later >> interoperation. And other things after that, like in-buffer Markdown or >> Scribble rendering of text cells. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Racket Users" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to racket-users...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Racket Users" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to racket-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- http://www.apgwoz.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Racket Users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to racket-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
