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Subject: how to handle double accounting
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Hello,=20

We have lots of double accounting coming from our NASes to Radiator. I =
know this is the normal procedure: NAS sends ACCT packet to radius. If =
NAS cannot get an ACK from radius it tries to resend the Accounting =
packet only altering the "Acct-Delay-Time". I do not know the reason why =
this is happening to me a lot.

When these ACCT packets gets to radius its written to acct database two =
or three times or even more. I have two questions:

1- can you image what may be the cause? I check: there is no packet loss =
or loss of connectivity between the radius and the nas.

2- how can you handle this when processing your accouting data. These =
account data have only timestamp and acct-delay-time different... The =
acctsessionid and the other fields are the same. When processing =
accounting, you cannot simply eliminate all the stop records from the =
acct database because different NASses (even a NAS) can send the same =
accounting session id in time...=20

any ideas?

Utku.


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>We have lots of double accounting =
coming from our=20
NASes to Radiator. I know this is the normal procedure: NAS sends ACCT =
packet to=20
radius.&nbsp;If NAS cannot get an ACK from radius it tries to resend the =

Accounting packet only altering the "Acct-Delay-Time".&nbsp;I do not =
know the=20
reason why this is happening to me a lot.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>When these ACCT packets&nbsp;gets to =
radius its=20
written to acct database two or three times or even more. I have two=20
questions:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1- can you image what may be the cause? =
I check:=20
there is no packet loss or loss of connectivity between the radius and =
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nas.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2- how can you handle this when =
processing your=20
accouting data. These account data have only timestamp and=20
acct-delay-time&nbsp;different... The acctsessionid&nbsp;and the other =
fields=20
are&nbsp;the same. When processing accounting, you cannot simply =
eliminate all=20
the stop records from the acct database because different NASses (even a =
NAS)=20
can send the same accounting session id in time... </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>any ideas?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Utku.</FONT></DIV>
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