Ernie :
" That's why I spend my time trying to find  "invariants" that will endure 
no matter which current paradigms are destroyed.  "

 
Nice work if you can get it. I think your sensitivities as a scientist  also
have something to do with it. You are conditioned to look for  invariables,
This is anything but a weakness, but like all good things in life,
there are trade offs.
 
I watch local Educational TV now and then. One recent program was  about
fluid dynamics. Waves and wave propagation. If there is one area of  
oceanography
that might have serious usefulness to social science this might be  it.
 
Society is roughly like the surface of the sea. Yes, you can reduce wave  
motion
to a series of equations, but the reality of politics is often like the  
sea during a storm.
When you are in it, the skills that matter most are those of a ship's  
captain.
So, to theorize about society / politics takes a combination of these  
skills.
Not only :  What equations describe wave  behavior ( including rogue waves 
and
tsunamis ) but how do you also describe what ship captains do ? And  while
you are at it, a little ship architecture isn't a bad idea, and some  basic
navigation knowledge. Maybe also toss in meteorology.
 
Not that social scientists are all that good at this. Too darned much to  
think about.
No-one can possibly do it all. And don't we all have biases ? So the  
results, 
no matter how conscientious, will always be less than optimal. Some do it 
better than others is the best anyone can say.
 
I see your point, and it is a good one. I'd call it necessary, in fact..  
But there is
more than one way to skin a cat. 
 
The way it seems to me, thinking about the TV program about fluid  dynamics,
you are most interested in a cross section of the sea, examining wave  
crests,
motion effects, longitudinal considerations, etc. No problem at all in  
seeing
how that is useful. But my natural tendency is to take a panoramic  view,
or a cartographers view, try to see how the problem spreads out before  me,
like a map or sea chart, and work from there.
 
Unless, of course, I find myself in a sailboat, wind gusts of 40  knots, and
my first priority is getting through the squall alive.
 
Cheers
Billy
 
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In a message dated 8/27/2010 8:55:39 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

Hi  Billy,

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 26, 2010, at 23:09,  [email protected] wrote:

> So, whatever form a now kind of politics  emerges, don't expect the old  
paradigms to make it though the Crisis  intact. Hell, we may not make it 
though the Crisis as we may expect as of  today.

Exactly. That's why I spend my time trying to find "invariants"  that will 
endure no matter which current paradigms are destroyed.  
E

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