Hi Billy, > recognize God in any of this ?
To be honest, yeah. Not much, but some. I am reminded of the Hindu article you sent me: those Bible verses make Jesus seem almost as violent and intolerant as Allah. Of course I would argue those verses were taken out of context, and it is important to look at what Jesus *did* to understand what he *said*. But then again, I don't really know the context for the suras below, so I am reluctant to judge. Of course, looking at what Mohammed himself did in Medina paints a much clearer picture of the difference between him and Jesus... E On Sep 1, 2010, at 5:03 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > from the site : Religion of Peace > > > Allah Himself Prevents Non-Muslims from Understanding > > It would make no sense if Allah gave the people that he hates an opportunity > to avoid his wrath. The Qur'an says that Allah deliberately puts obstacles > in the way of unbelievers to keep them from accepting the truth: > > If Allah wished, he could provide guidance to every soul: > > If We had so willed, We could certainly have brought every soul its true > guidance (32:13) > > > Allah Actually Causes Non-Muslims to Sin > > Not content with merely preventing unbelievers from knowing the truth (which > is enough to condemn them to Hell) the Qur'an says that a hateful Allah also > causes unbelievers to commit the very sin that he will later punish them for: > > And if Allah please He would certainly make you a single nation, but He > causes to err whom He pleases and guides whom He pleases; and most certainly > you will be questioned as to what you did (16:93) > > Although Satan tempts Muslims, it is Allah himself who causes unbelievers to > err. > > …and whomsoever Allah causes to err, you shall not find a way for him. > (4:143, see also 4:88) > > > The Qur’an Says that Non-Muslims Should Not be Taken as Friends > > Given that Allah hates non-Muslims to the extent that he would prevent them > from knowing the truth, cause them to err and then condemn them to eternal > torture for their unbelief and misdeeds, it would make little sense if he > intended Muslims to treat unbelievers by the same standards that they treat > each other here on earth. > > The Qur’an says that no true Muslim would ever love anyone who resists Islam, > even if it is a family member: > > Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving > those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers > or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred. (58:22) > > There are at least nine places in the Qur’an where believers are warned not > to befriend non-Muslims: > > O ye who believe! Take not for friends unbelievers rather than believers: Do > ye wish to offer Allah an open proof against yourselves? (4:144) > > In fact, anyone who does take a non-Muslim as a friend could be accused of > being an unbeliever as well: > > O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are > friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of > them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk. (5:51) > > Muhammad said that unbelievers have it out for Muslims. They may appear > harmless or friendly, but, in reality, they harbor corruption and evil > intentions: > > O ye who believe! Take not into your intimacy those outside your ranks: They > will not fail to corrupt you. They only desire your ruin: Rank hatred has > already appeared from their mouths: What their hearts conceal is far worse > (3:118) > > For the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies (4:101) > > As for them, they are but plotting a scheme (86:15) > > Those outside of Islam are really helpers of evil against Allah: > > The Misbeliever is a helper (of Evil), against his own Lord! (25:55) > > Instead of befriending non-Muslims, the Qur'an encourages hostility. Muslims > are ordered to fight unbelievers: > > O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and > let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep > their duty. (9:123) > > The Qur’an tells Muslims that they will spend eternity laughing at > unbelievers (83:34) and mocking their suffering as they are tortured in Hell: > > And the dwellers of the garden will call out to the inmates of the fire: > Surely we have found what our Lord promised us to be true; have you too found > what your Lord promised to be true? They will say: Yes. Then a crier will cry > out among them that the curse of Allah is on the unjust. (7:44) – Muhammad > got an early start on this by personally mocking his dead enemies following > the Battle of Badr (Ibn Ishaq 454) > > One does not befriend those over whose suffering they will later rejoice, nor > does it make any sense that Muslims would befriend those whom the Qur'an > labels "enemies of Allah" by virtue of their unbelief. > > > The Qur’an Says that Other Religions are Cursed by Allah > > Buddhists in Thailand, Jews in Israel, Christians in Indonesia, Hindus in > India... Why is Islam at war with every major world religion, when none of > these religions are at war with each other? Part of the reason is that the > Qur’an is specific about the inferiority of other faiths (see 48:28) and the > hatred that Allah harbors for their people. > > Although it is common for Muslims to become upset about anyone “insulting” > their religion, here is what the Qur’an says about Jews and Christians: > > The Jews call Ezra a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of > Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the > unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are > deluded away from the Truth! (9:30) (See also Bukhari 8:427), one of the last > things Muhammad ever said on his deathbed was "May Allah curse the Jews and > Christians.”) > > The Qur’an specifically addresses Christians, Jews, Polytheists (Hindus) and > atheists: > > Christians are blasphemers (5:17, 5:73) who have invented a lie about Allah > (10:68-69) by ascribing partners to Allah (ie. the Trinity). Inventing a lie > about Allah is the worst of sins (7:37, 29:68) and for this reason Christians > are condemned to Hell (10:70). Although one (early Medinan) verse seems to > say that righteous Christians will go to heaven, this is abrogated by later > verses that make it very clear that Christians must cease being Christian > (ie. reject the Trinity) or suffer eternal torment for their beliefs > (5:72-73). > > Jews are also cursed by Allah (5:13), in one of his final pronouncements. > The Qur’an goes on to assure Muslims that Jews are wicked (4:160-162) – so > wicked, in fact, that they have somehow managed to do the impossible (18:27) > and alter the word of Allah (2:75). Jews are “fond of lies” and “devour the > forbidden” (5:42). > > The Qur’an assures believers that Jews and Christians have “diseased hearts” > (5:52). Allah even takes credit for the enmity between them (5:14). Only > Jews and Christians who submit to Islamic subjugation and pay the Jizya are > protected in this world (9:29 & Ibn Ishaq 956). > > Hindus are polytheists. Although Muhammad didn’t know any Hindus (and > neither did Allah, apparently) the Qur’an still manages to lay the groundwork > for the 1000 year ethnic cleansing campaign against the Hindu people that is > estimated to have taken tens of millions of innocent lives. In Islam, > polytheists are worse than all other religion. Those who join idols (14:30) > or false gods (11:14) to Allah also invent a lie about Him (29:17) and will > burn in Hell. Even believing in other divine entities along with Allah is an > unforgivable crime (4:48, 40:12). > > Atheists believe in no god, which is even worse than believing in the wrong > one (Muhammad and his successors had atheists put to death - Bukhari 84:57). > Merely questioning the existence of Allah is a testament to one’s impiety > (25:21), even as Muslim narcissim is encouraged in the Qur’an. Muhammad > always answered probing questions merely by telling the inquiring party that > they would go to Hell if they didn’t believe in him (36:49-64). The Qur'an > discourages Muslims from intellectual inquiry (5:101-102). > > Anyone who gives up his [ Muslim ] religion is a “perverted transgressor” > (3:82). Perverted as well is anyone who denies Allah (40:63) or does not > believe Muhammad (2:99). Freedom of conscience does not exist in Islam. > Muhammad clearly prescribed the death penalty for apostates (Bukhari 52:260). > > > > > > -- > Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community > <[email protected]> > Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism > Radical Centrism website and blog: http://RadicalCentrism.org -- Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community <[email protected]> Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism Radical Centrism website and blog: http://RadicalCentrism.org
