That explains it pretty well. The next question, what would he say about Communists ? That the only bad ones are those caught in the act ? Granted. it isn't nearly the problem it once was, these days you mostly can skate around it, but he was alive and well during the Cold War. How did he deal with the issue back then ? Billy ============================================ In a message dated 9/26/2010 8:35:21 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:
Jumped the shark. The Old School Libertarian Foreign Affairs policy is shining through. It's noble: Innocent until proven guilty, but you have to be living in a cave to think that there's not enough evidence for guilt out there. He would probably require the finding of more than 50 % of all Muslims guilty of terrorist acts before he would consider "Muslims" guilty. And that still might not be enough. "Individual rights," so "Individual guilt." If you cannot convict all of them, then it isn't (yeah, right) the religion. David To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.--Thomas Jefferson On 9/24/2010 5:37 PM, [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) wrote: This is totally disgusting, Ron Paul's ignorance is monumental. In fact, Ron Paul comes across as an idiot. He doesn't know what the hell he is talking about. Listen to the whole interview if you want. BR ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- _Ron Paul: Goal Of Protesting NYC Mosque Is To Blame Islam For 9/11_ (http://www.ronpaul.com/2010-08-23/ron-paul-on-cnn-anderson-cooper-360°/) ( partial ) Transcript August 23, 2010 Sanjay Gupta: Those are the facts, as we can tell. But there are some who say it simply isn’t for any of us to pass judgment on who should build a mosque, and where they should build it, as long as it’s on private property and no laws are broken. New York Mayor, Mike Bloomberg, he believes that and, apparently, so does Republican Congressman and former presidential candidate, _Ron Paul_ (http://www.ronpaulnews.com/) . And he joins us now from Clute, Texas. Thanks for joining us, Congressman. Ron Paul: Thank you, good to be with you. Sanjay Gupta: Now, I read your article and you say this whole issue is really an issue of property rights and everything else is “really about hate and Islamaphobia”. But, you know, I want to start by asking: is what happened on September 11, 9 years ago, different; the worst terrorist attack on U.S. soil? Are there certain lines to be drawn even when it comes to this property rights issue? Ron Paul: No, you should draw lines. But I think the lines are being drawn improperly. Al-Qaida was responsible, several hundred Al-Qaida existed at that time. And maybe there are still several hundred more. But that doesn’t mean the whole Muslim religion should be indicted: that is my complaint. I mean, McVeigh probably was a Christian and he bombed the Oklahoma Federal building, but does that mean that a Christian church can’t be built near there and Christianity is blamed? No, I don’t like that broad brush. So yes, the violence was committed by Al-Qaida and they’re bad people and we should do what we can to destroy them. But that doesn’t mean that we should destroy the whole concept of the Muslim religion. And if they can bring this out, whether the mosque is stopped or not, the implication here is that Islam c aused 9/11, not a narrow branch of the Al-Qaida. To me, that is crucial because it deals with our foreign policy, it deals with … you know, even in that clip earlier on Madeleine Albright admitted. She said, “Well, if 500,000 people are killed, so be it if that’s what it takes”. So the Muslims have justification for their worries and concerns. Sanjay Gupta: There is a lot of pain and anguish, I think, from people who are worried about this Islamic center being built. Do you see that point of view at all? Ron Paul: To worry about it? Well, I worry about it because I’m afraid it stirs up hatred and that’s why I worry about it. And I think they’re off on a tangent. I think the purpose was, too often, to just blame Islam. But there is another Mosque in that area, this is not right where the towers were, this is not too far down the street. But, what about the strip joints? Are these people who are “holier than thou” condemning the strip joints nearby because it defames Ground Zero? So I don’t think that’s any consistency. I think this goal was to blame Islam for 9/11 and I think that is wrong. I don’t think that was the cause. Al-Qaida did it. Sanjay Gupta: And you talk about the fact that there is a lot of Islamaphobia. I mean, your son, _Rand Paul_ (http://www.randpaul.com/) , who’s running for the U.S. Senate in Kentucky, is opposed to this facility being built. Is he Islamaphobic? Ron Paul: Well, I don’t know what his position is, but he’s certainly not islamaphoic. Ron Paul: Well no, I don’t put everybody who is a candidate in that same category that might have a reason. You have to ask him for his reason. But no, everybody who’s opposing it doesn’t even understand the foreign policy or why we’re in Iraq and Afghanistan. They don’t have this understanding, they don’t want to see the connection. My goal is to make the connection for people to understand what’s going on and why Al-Qaida has become so militant and hateful toward us and why painting Islam with a broad brush makes our problems worse because we’re not narrowing down on the real cause and those who perpetuated 9/11. And if we don’t get to that, we can’t solve this problem Sanjay Gupta: Do you think it should be built? Ron Paul: I don’t care whether it’s built or not built. Everybody says it’ s private property and they should be able to do what they want to do. Once again, the point I’m making is not to blame Islam for 9/11, you have to blame only Al-Qaida. That is a completely different story than all these innuendoes that you’re bringing up, I don’t think that’s part of the question. You have to narrow it in because it has to do with our foreign policy and that’s what I’m dealing with; the foreign policy. The foreign policy is crucial because that’s why we have perpetual war. And I think this is all connected, not in a way that is conspiratorial, but in a way that it is almost like people slip into this. It’s really easy for people to get to hating Islam. To me, that’s equivalent to hating Christians because Timothy McVeigh was a Christian, and that I don’t like, nobody should like it, nobody should like this being painted with a broad brush. It was done to the Jews before and I don’t like it. I like to stick to the facts, I like to talk about the foreign policy and how it’s related. The sideshow which is what I call this, is just there to stir things up and prevent us from dealing with the real problems, and that is our interventionist foreign policy that gets us too much involved overseas, too many people die on both side and we’re totally bankrupt and we have to address that. We have to get away from: “Are we going to support the building of the mosque?” and that was sort of the innuendos when you bring up with the question about my son. I mean, you’re missing the whole point when you think that is the crucial question. The crucial question is our foreign policy. That’ s what I want the people to think about. -- Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community _<[email protected]>_ (mailto:[email protected]) Google Group: _http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism_ (http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism) Radical Centrism website and blog: _http://RadicalCentrism.org_ (http://radicalcentrism.org/) -- Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community <[email protected]> Google Group: _http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism_ (http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism) Radical Centrism website and blog: _http://RadicalCentrism.org_ (http://radicalcentrism.org/) -- Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community <[email protected]> Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism Radical Centrism website and blog: http://RadicalCentrism.org
