Barry :
Lunz is one of the sharpest minds in the business. He's a regular on  Fox.
Trouble is, most often he is featured on Hannity, and Hannity has no idea ( 
 at all )
how to make the best use of Lunz's talents, and always wants to make  
strictly
partisan points. OK, that is valid enough maybe 1/3rd of the time, but  with
Hannity it is 99% of the time. Makes me want to switch channels 
almost immediately.
 
While Lunz is a Conservative, one thing that makes him stand out is his  
real effort
to always be as objective as possible. Hannity is a fish out of water 
unless the discussion promotes the GOP.
 
Michael Barone is someone else who is about as objective as anyone gets.  
Also 
Charlie Cook , of Cook Reports  On the Left there is John King on CNN.  His 
problem
is that he has a show that is half commentary. When he sticks to the facts  
he is Very Good.
When he comments it usually ( not always, but usually ) is party line  
stuff, not as bad
as the worst party-liners, but nonetheless..........
 
None of them will change the world. But at least there are some, now, who  
serve
as examples of objective political analysis.
 
Billy
 
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In a message dated 9/27/2010 4:52:15 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

Will it  resonate deep enough in the American psyche to make that  profound
change?  Can it make up for decades of dysfunction within  Washington or
will we, the sheeple enable the status quo?  I am not  convinced the people
are as mad as  claimed.

Barry




W Post
>
>
> Is the  'Pledge to America' a worthy successor to the  'Contract With
>  America'?
>
> By Frank I. Luntz
> Sunday, September 26,  2010
>
> The men and women were so angry that they were actually  spitting on me as
> they barked out their complaints -- "sickening  government spending" and
> "lobbyist legislation" and "repulsive  corruption" and the "whole stinking
> mess."  At one point, I  wondered whether one guy was going to take a 
swing
> at  me.
>
>
> I had come to Denver that Saturday in early  September to talk to 31
> undecided  voters, hoping to figure out  exactly what Republicans needed 
to
> say and
> do to  win the  support of the Angry American. I tried everything --
> "promises,"   "pledges," "platforms," "agendas" -- but nothing worked.
> These  people
> were mad  as hell, and I almost gave up. "Okay, you've  told me clearly
> what
> you don't  want," I said in my last  attempt. "Now please tell me, in your
> own
> words,  exactly  what you do want."
> The dam broke. "I want specifics" . . . "Make them  write it down on 
paper"
> .  . . "They have to sign it" . . . "Make  it a real contract. Make it
> enforceable."  As quickly as their  tempers had risen, the thought of a
> policy
> manifesto  listing  specific legislative proposals, with a genuine
>  commitment to
> get it all done,  soothed their scorned  souls.
> This was in 1994, and the anti-Washington language so common  today was
> just
>  as virulent then. For months, the Clinton  White House had labeled Newt
> Gingrich  and his House GOP  colleagues as the party of "no," and 
Democrats
> were
>  claiming  that voters could see how extreme the Republican Party  really
> was. (Sound  familiar?) Yet, under Gingrich's tutelage,  House Republicans
> offered voters 10  specific proposals to prove  that they were unlike the
> politicians the public so   reviled.
> I didn't write the "Contract With America." I didn't even  name it. But I
> was  the pollster who "messaged" it, testing how  voters responded to the
> language.  And I have always been proud  of how that document contributed
> to the
> Republican   landslide in 1994 and how it served as an organizing plan for
>  congressional  Republicans in 1995.
>
>
>
> This  past Thursday, House Republicans unveiled their own _"Pledge to
>  America,"_
>  
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/22/AR2010092206643.html)
>   which, according  to GOP House Whip Eric Cantor, is meant
> to  "change the culture of Washington,  returning power, control and  
money
> back to the people where it belongs." I  wasn't involved  with this
> document,
> but I have moderated almost 50   instant-response focus groups with
> thousands
> of voters this  year, and I do have  a good idea of what they really want.
> So,  how does the Pledge stack up against the Contract -- and might it 
lead
>  to  similar success? Let's break them down, point by point.
>  First, their names: "A Pledge to America" vs. the "Contract With  
America."
> I  have to give the edge to the 1994 version, though I  have an even 
better
> word.  Nobody trusts political promises or  politicians' pledges, but a
> "commitment"  suggests seriousness  and a willingness to put your
> reputation on the
> line. I   conducted polls on this wording this year, and an overwhelming 
81
>  percent of  Americans preferred a "commitment," while just 10  percent
> chose
> a "promise" and  only 9 percent a  "pledge."
> The American people in 2010, above all else, want  politicians to
> demonstrate  that Washington works for America,  not the other way around.
> The
> full-page,  double-sided,  tear-out ad for the Contract With America that
> ran in TV
> Guide  in  October 1994 did just that, featuring two simple but powerful
>  sentences: "A  campaign promise is one thing. A signed contract is  quite
> another." The authors  of the 2010 document could have done  better than
> "pledge."
> Second, let's look at the documents'  bipartisan appeal. The words
> "Clinton"
>  and "Democrat"  were missing from the 1994 Contract and the TV Guide ad
> for
>  a  reason. Late at night on Sept. 25, 1994, I sat at a computer at  the
> Republican  National Committee and removed the draft  Contract's four
> remaining
> references to  Clinton and the  Democrats because voters were crying out
> for a
>  nonpartisan  approach to governing.
> The 2010 Pledge is more  overtly critical of the Democrats in Congress and
> the  White  House, but more important, it is considerably more
>  anti-government
> in its  language. Calling Washington a "red tape  factory" conjures a
> compelling visual,  and suggesting that the  priorities of the people 
"have
> been
> ignored, even mocked   by the powers-that-be in Washington" is just the
> sort of
>  red-meat rhetoric that  fires up the grass roots. But the most  
passionate
> descriptor in the document,  "an arrogant and  out-of-touch government of
> self-appointed elites," hits exactly   what independents think.
> Independents
> determine who wins  elections, so on that  score, the Pledge beats the
>  Contract.
> Third, the opening lines. Here, the Pledge wins hands down.  "America is
> more  than a country" is a simple but profound  statement that says so 
much
> in
> just a  few words. By  comparison, the Contract began with language that
> sounded like  it  was spoken by Sir Laurence Olivier in some film about
>  Shakespeare: "As  Republican Members of the House of Representatives  and
> as citizens
> seeking to  join that body we propose not  just to change its policies, 
but
> even more  important, to restore  the bonds of trust between the people 
and
> their elected   representatives." Any sentence that has more than 40 words
> cannot  possibly be  effective. And frankly, any opening sentence that
>  includes
> the word "Republican"  is spring-loaded for failure.  This year, the
> authors of
> the Pledge understand  that  it's not about them, the Republicans; it's
> about you, the American  people.  Once again, the Pledge wins.
> Fourth, the specifics. The  Contract offered a detailed course of action.
> In
>  fact,  it proposed eight major reforms, including the first independent
> audit  of  Congress and a cut in the congressional budget and staffing,
>  that
> House members  promised to pass (and did) on their very  first day in
> office.
> The Pledge has no  equivalent -- a  glaring omission.
> Fifth and finally, the closing lines. For those who  read it, the
> effectiveness of the Contract was in the perception that  it was a binding
> document
> with an enforcement clause. "If we  break this contract, throw us out.  We
> mean it." That was written  in large, bold letters at the bottom of the TV
> Guide version, and it  is one of the most powerful statements in the
> document.
> For  the first time in American politics, a group of elected officials
>  explicitly  invited their constituents to toss them from office if  they
> failed to
> do what  they promised. (It took Americans  12 years to take them up on
> that
> offer.)
> By  comparison, the Pledge ends with a "call to action" -- always a good
>  approach -- but then it appeals to "men and women of good will and  good
> heart."  Who talks like that outside of, say, Sherwood  Forest? Advantage:
> Contract.
> Of course, campaign documents  don't always resonate or have an impact;
> just
>  consider  the Democratic _"Six for '06"_
>  
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/04/AR2007050402262.html)
>   campaign, which
> doesn't  even rise to the import of its own  Wikipedia entry, and whose
> authors
> even  acknowledged at  the time that it was nothing more than an election
> gimmick.   "It's closing the deal," opined Sen. Chuck Schumer, then
> chairman of  the
>  Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, hardly a ringing  endorsement.
> Officially called "A New Direction for America," it had  none of the
> legislative  detail of the 1994 Contract, none of the  intellectual heft 
of
> the 2010
> Pledge --  and no one other  than Nancy Pelosi campaigned on it.
> The Pledge is different. It's not  quite a contract, but it's definitely
> more  than an agenda. And  it addresses the issue that has most incensed
> the
>  American  people over the past two years: It calls for a permanent end  
to
> taxpayer-funded  bailouts. There should be no room for  misin
> terpretation here.
> From the bailouts  to  billionaires to the stimulus package that failed to
> stimulate to  the  government takeover of health care, the American people
>  cried
> "Stop!" -- but the  Democratic majority in Washington  refused to listen.
> That alone justifies the  Pledge effort. And  when examining its other
> agenda
> items, I can't help but   conclude that the similar criticisms that were
> leveled at the Contract  -- too  bold, too timid, too conservative, not
> conservative  enough -- will fail to sink  the Pledge as well.
> Ultimately, of  course, the success of the Pledge will be determined not 
by
> the  results on Election Day, but by what happens afterward. Still, 
there's
>  a  simple lesson for both parties: The American people aren't just mad  
as
> hell.  This time, they're truly not going to take it anymore.  They'll 
keep
> changing  their government until their government  really changes. So
> credit
> Republicans  for putting their  Pledge on paper. Now, they will be held
> accountable to the   standard they've set for themselves -- and it's a 
good
> one.
>  Frank I. Luntz, a pollster and communications consultant, is the   author
> of
> "Words That Work: It's Not What You Say, It's What  People Hear" and  
"What
> Americans Really Want . . . Really." He  will be online to discuss this
> piece on Monday, Sept. 27, at 10 a.m.  ET. _Submit your questions or
> comments_
>  
(http://live.washingtonpost.com/pledge-for-america-outlook-frank-luntz-0927.htm
>  l)   before or during the discussion.
>
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