Nails it, well said.
 
And, BTW, great first line !
 
Billy
 
-------------------------------------------------------------
 
 
message dated 11/4/2010 8:13:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

I need to find some popcorn.... 

It's the  agenda driven legislation without consideration of the hardships 
of  unemployment. 

They took care of the banks, unions, and health care  reform while the 
folks were screaming JOBS, JOBS, JOBS (not a reference to  your CEO, Ernie) and 
facing foreclosures.

THEY JUST DIDN'T GET IT.  

And they didn't really appear to give a shit about that until the last  
month or so. The 2008 election was a vote against the Republicans, not a vote  
FOR the Democratic agenda. They misread that and got their butts handed to  
them. 

If Republicans don't see this as a similar thing (although one  could argue 
that it was a vote against what the Democrats have done so far),  then they 
will pay the piper in 2012, UNLESS Obama vetoes just about  everything they 
send him. In which case, the "party of no" can point to the  "President of 
no." Schadenfreude. 

David

 
"Anyone  who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than 
people do is a  swine."--P.  J. O’Rourke 


On 11/4/2010 10:29 AM,  [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])  wrote:  
     (http://www.politico.com/)    
Dems: It's  the White House's fault
By: Ben Smith
November 3, 2010 06:21 PM EDT     
The bodies aren’t even cold yet  in the House, but the Democratic Party has 
already opened up a bitter  debate over who’s to blame. 

The party’s bloodied moderates  Wednesday released two years of pent-up 
anger at a party leadership  they viewed as blind to their needs and deaf to 
the messages of voters  who never asked for _President Barack  Obama’s_ 
(http://topics.politico.com/index.cfm/topic/BarackObama)   ambitious first-term 
agenda. 

Liberals pushed back hard: The  problem, they say, was those undisciplined 
moderates, who won delays,  unsightly compromises and a muddled message from 
a too-accommodating  administration. 

Yet a third group of Democratic politicians  and operatives blamed not 
policy but a failed sales job for the  party’s woes. 

One thing all sides agree on: The _White  House_ 
(http://topics.politico.com/index.cfm/topic/WhiteHouse)  blew it.  

“It is clear that Democrats overinterpreted our mandate. Talk  of a ‘
political realignment’ and a ‘new progressive era’ proved  wishful thinking,” 
retiring Indiana _Sen. Evan  Bayh_ 
(http://topics.politico.com/index.cfm/topic/EvanBayh)  wrote in a  _New York 
Times  op-ed_ 
(http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/03/opinion/03bayh.html?_r=1&ref=opinion)  
posted  online as the scope 
of Tuesday night’s losses became clear.  

Bayh called the decision to focus on health care in a bad  economy “
overreach."

“We were too deferential to our most  zealous supporters,” he wrote. 

Bayh spoke for a wing of the  party that had been, before the election, 
reluctant to criticize  Obama’s management of the government but on Wednesday 
spoke loudly.  

“Fundamentally, Democrats lost the middle,” the president of  the centrist 
Democratic Leadership Council, Ed Gresser, said  Wednesday. 

“The party's apparent lack of interest in a  long-term path away from 
emergency stimulus toward fiscal balance  revived a pre-Clinton reputation for 
carefree attitudes toward public  money.” 

And Oregon _Sen. Ron  Wyden_ 
(http://topics.politico.com/index.cfm/topic/RonWyden) , a  proponent of 
bipartisanship if not always a policy centrist, 
lamented  the “missed opportunities in the last two years” in bipartisan  
initiatives from the White House, particularly on tax policy.  

But if the center is speaking loudly, it speaks from a  narrower platform. 
The nature of a wave is to shear off moderate  members in swing districts, 
and the House lost half of its Blue Dog  Caucus. And liberals were quick to 
note that Bayh could have chosen to  stay in the Senate, rather than offering 
advice from the  sidelines. 
“Evan Bayh, for the sake of  being a patriot and for the sake of being a 
Democrat, should have  stayed in — he would have protected us,” Gerry 
McEntee, president  of the giant public workers union AFSCME — a key backer of  
Democrats this year — told POLITICO. 
McEntee said he blamed both the  White House and congressional Republicans 
for failing to act more  aggressively to create jobs. 

“I don’t think that there was  enough effort, and maybe there just wasn’t 
enough knowledge, or maybe  there wasn’t enough support in the Congress to 
really. truly attack  this problem of jobs,” he said. “You can talk about 
the tea party, you  can talk about the coffee party, you can talk about all 
kinds of  things, but you’ve got to talk about jobs.” 

Others said Obama  had allowed moderates to distract from and muddle his 
message.  

“What killed us was the conservative [Democrats] dragging  health care out 
too long,” said another labor leader Wednesday.  

“Democrats who decided to play ball with corporate interests  found 
themselves friendless,” said a spokeswoman for MoveOn.org, Ilyse  Hogue, citing 
Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D-Ark.) and other defeated  moderates while making the 
case for a purer, more confrontational  party. “Claiming to support Democratic 
principles while quietly  pandering to corporate interests is no longer a 
winning political  strategy,” she said. 

The criticism from within the Democratic  Party may make some of Obama's 
goals all the harder. House members who  walked the plank on a cap-and-trade 
energy bill vote and barely  survived are all the less likely to take hard 
votes now. Legislators  of all stripes may be more eager to show their 
distance from the White  House, and legislative leaders may be less likely to 
cooperate.  

Some internal critics are calling on Obama to reach out to  Republicans, 
but any threat of factionalism inside his own party will  most likely push the 
president in the opposite direction. Democrats'  best home, many believe, 
is uniting around a common enemy in  congressional Republicans, and Obama's 
best bet for rallying both a  restive base and skeptical moderates is 
pointing to a common  enemy.

In his news conference Wednesday, Obama gave few firm  clues as to which 
way he thinks he must turn — to the left or  toward the middle. On the one 
hand, he acknowledged his "shellacking"  at the hands of voters and offered to 
try to work with Republicans,  but on the other, he said finding any common 
ground with the GOP would  be difficult. And he defended his moves that 
inspired the most voter  anger — his health care package and stimulus spending. 
It’s a sign of Obama’s weakened  position coming out of Tuesday that 
partisans on both ends of the  party’s ideological spectrum felt free to take 
potshots, hoping they  could still sway him as he tries to settle on a course 
for the last  two years of his term. 

Indeed, the broad Democratic defeat  gave fodder to any number of 
arguments. Conservative Democrats  lost — but they were tarred with Obama’s 
ambitious policy agenda.  

And members’ attempts to maneuver away from the wave largely  failed: 
Twenty of the 39 members who voted against the health care  legislation the 
first 
time it came up in the House lost their seats  anyway Tuesday. 

The breadth of Obama’s defeat left some  Democrats arguing that the White 
House’s real problem wasn’t policy  and ideology but strategy and tactics. 

“If you look at the  stuff that we did, it was on an issue-by-issue level 
popular, but we  have to do something different in the way we talk about the 
challenges  we face and the way we deal with them,” said Rep. Anthony Weiner 
of  New York. 

“We clearly need much better air cover from the  president,” he said, 
expressing skepticism of “this accepted wisdom  that if you get things 
accomplished and explain them, you’ll win  people over.” 

To the degree Democrats had a bright spot  Tuesday, it was their retention 
of the Senate, and one Democratic  strategist argued that Senate campaigns 
kept their eyes on the ball  when the White House wandered in the campaign’s 
final months.  

“For a while there, they were focused on the oil spill, the  Middle East 
peace process, Afghanistan, the anniversary of Katrina,  the ground zero 
mosque and redecorating the Oval Office,” said the  Democrat. 

And White House critics across the spectrum said the  new focus would have 
to be almost entirely on core economic issues.  

“Stop calling it ‘stimulus’ or ‘infrastructure’ or ‘R&E,’”  former 
Clinton aide _Paul Begala  wrote_ 
(http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-begala/a-centrist-democratic-age_b_777955.html)
   Wednesday. “Call it jobs. Jobs. 
Jobs. Jobs.” 

Neera Tanden,  chief operating officer of the Center for American Progress, 
said:  “Yesterday's elections were a vote of no confidence on Democratic  
stewardship of the economy. The president needs to both propose new  policy 
proposals that will help foster economic growth and create new  jobs and 
communicate every day that that issue is his priority, so  that the American 
people understand that he knows their jobs are as  important as his. "   
(http://www.irides.com/)  
© 2010 Capitol News Company,  LLC
-- 
Centroids: The  Center of the Radical Centrist Community 
_<[email protected]>_ (mailto:[email protected]) 
Google  Group: _http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism_ 
(http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism) 
Radical  Centrism website and blog: _http://RadicalCentrism.org_ 
(http://radicalcentrism.org/) 

-- 
Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community  
<[email protected]>
Google Group: _http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism_ 
(http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism) 
Radical  Centrism website and blog: _http://RadicalCentrism.org_ 
(http://radicalcentrism.org/) 


-- 
Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community 
<[email protected]>
Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism
Radical Centrism website and blog: http://RadicalCentrism.org

Reply via email to