Logically, you would have thought that Jews would have gravitated to the GOP years ago. Well, maybe not so much. The Republicans keep doing really stupid things and therein is a story all its own. Regardless, comparing the two groups, Jews and Democrats, Jews have more in common with Republicans these days. Wasn't true in the past, but is now. It isn't so much that Hussein is anti-Israel, although he sure comes across that way half the time, but that when he says something about the Mid East and it almost always is pro-Muslim. I watched part of his appearance before AIPAC. Yes, he said things that outwardly indicated continued support for Israel. But he was being argumentative, if there was warmth and sincerity it was anything but obvious. He wants it both ways, his usual approach to most things. Politics doesn't work that way. Billy -------------------------------------------------------- message dated 5/22/2011 9:15:45 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:
He's been sending all of the wrong messages and he still expects a sizable following?? That's delusional. The 1967 boundaries?? Really now?? What was he drinking? David _ "There is no virtue in compulsory government charity, and there is no virtue in advocating it. A politician who portrays himself as "caring" and "sensitive" because he wants to expand the government's charitable programs is merely saying that he's willing to try to do good with other people's money. Well, who isn't? And a voter who takes pride in supporting such programs is telling us that he'll do good with his own money -- if a gun is held to his head."--P. J. O'Rourke On 5/22/2011 4:47 PM, [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) wrote: Note : The "talkback" aka comments section is very revealing. I could not get this part of the material to copy, so you would need to see for yourself, but as of today , Obama is in Very Deep Doo-Doo among a larger segment of Jewish voters , more than any Democrat has been since the Reagan era when Republicans won 40 % of this electorate. Jerusalem Post Jewish Americans ponder support for Obama By _REUTERS_ (mailto:[email protected]) 05/22/2011 01:22 Some Jewish leaders express alienation, renounce support for US president, while others say speech did not change much. CHICAGO - Some prominent Jewish Americans are rethinking their support for US President Barack Obama's 2012 re-election bid after he effectively _called for negotiations based on pre-1967 borders_ (http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=221369) . The backlash after Obama's keynote speech on the Middle East has Democratic Party operatives scrambling to mollify the Jewish community as the president prepares to seek a second term in the White House. Obama on Thursday called for any new Palestinian state to respect the borders as they were in 1967, prompting Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu to _tell him bluntly that his vision of how to achieve Middle East peace was unrealistic_ (http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=221520) . "He has in effect sought to reduce Israel's negotiation power and I condemn him for that," former New York Mayor Ed Koch told Reuters. Koch said he might not campaign or vote for Obama if Republicans nominate a pro-Israel candidate who offers an alternative to recent austere budgetary measures backed by Republicans in Congress. Koch donated $2,300 to Obama's campaign in 2008, according to filings with the Federal Election Commission. "I believed that then-Senator Obama would be as good as John McCain based on his statements at the time and based on his support of Israel. It turns out I was wrong," he said. Despite the stormy reaction to Obama's remarks, some commentators noted talk of the 1967 borders was nothing new. "This has been the basic idea for at least 12 years. This is what Bill Clinton, Ehud Barak and Yasser Arafat were talking about at Camp David, and later, at Taba," Jeffrey Goldberg wrote on The Atlantic website. "This is what _George W. Bush_ (http://newstopics.jpost.com/topic/George_W._Bush) was talking about with Ariel Sharon and Ehud Olmert. So what's the huge deal here?" Exit polls from the 2008 election showed 78 percent of Jewish voters chose Obama over his Republican rival _Senator McCain_ (http://newstopics.jpost.com/topic/John_McCain) . "I have spoken to a lot of people in the last couple of days -- former supporters -- who are very upset and feel alienated," billionaire real estate developer and publisher Mortimer Zuckerman said. "He'll get less political support, fewer activists for his campaign, and I am sure that will extend to financial support as well." Zuckerman backed Obama during his 2008 presidential run and the newspaper he owns, the New York Daily News, endorsed the president. Obama's Chicago-based re-election campaign sought to play down reaction to the shift in the US stance toward Israel. "There's no question that we've reached out to the Jewish donor community, as we have to many other communities that strongly supported the president in 2008," a campaign spokeswoman said on Friday. "The continued grassroots organizing and fundraising efforts of many prominent leaders in the Jewish community makes it clear this will remain a strong base of support in 2012." Texas-based real estate developer Kirk Rudy, who is a deputy finance chairman for the Democratic National Committee, said he exchanged phone calls and e-mails with a large network of supporters since the president's speech "trying to take people's pulse" and has not seen a strong backlash. "I have seen very emphatic and robust support -- and financial support -- from the Jewish community," Rudy said, adding Obama received "significant financial participation from the Jewish community" at two fund-raisers in Austin, before the Middle East speech, that brought in roughly $2 million. Since the speech, Rudy has received e-mails from angry voters but the overwhelming majority of his network will continue to donate and not cross party lines, he said. But Morton Klein, president of the Zionist Organization of America, wrote an open letter to the _American Israeli Public Affairs Committee_ (http://newstopics.jpost.com/topic/American_Israel_Public_Affairs_Committee) , or AIPAC, calling on it to cancel a scheduled address by Obama to the lobby group on Sunday. -- Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community _<[email protected]>_ (mailto:[email protected]) Google Group: _http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism_ (http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism) Radical Centrism website and blog: _http://RadicalCentrism.org_ (http://radicalcentrism.org/) -- Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community <[email protected]> Google Group: _http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism_ (http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism) Radical Centrism website and blog: _http://RadicalCentrism.org_ (http://radicalcentrism.org/) -- Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community <[email protected]> Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism Radical Centrism website and blog: http://RadicalCentrism.org
