Re: [RC] Pawlenty is to economics what Palin is to US History

[David R. Block]

Title: ORourke54.htm

Honestly, I don't know that much about him. Some friends on other groups who are from Minnesota are not that kind. Pawlenty and Romney are Obama light, from what I understand. PERRY 2012!! ;-) David "There is no virtue in compulsory government charity, and there is no virtue in advocating it. A politician who portrays himself as "caring" and "sensitive" because he wants to expand the government's charitable programs is merely saying that he's willing to try to do good with other people's money. Well, who isn't? And a voter who takes pride in supporting such programs is telling us that he'll do good with his own money -- if a gun is held to his head."--P. J. O'Rourke On 6/7/2011 11:34 PM, bil...@aol.com wrote:   David : I'm not certain about whether he is a libertarian, maybe not. However, about some issues what else do you call him ? Drop taxes to nothing because the government is BAD. That part of it is about as libertarian as things get.   Actually he is more George W Bush risen from the dead than anything else. He freely admits that his tax policy would increase the national debt astronomically but, so he says  --I heard his speech tonight--  in the long run there will be a flood of increased tax revenues and we will live in Elysium.   Can't remember the exact figures, but we have a national debt of maybe $ 15 trillion. The Pawlenty plan would balloon this to a minimum of, say, $ 25 trillion before the magical revenue stream would kick in. I simply can't believe this horse poop. We've been down that road before, and what did we end up with ?  We got Bush 43 and the national debt, horrible as it was to begin with, doubled.   What part of "cut taxes but also spend, spend, spend," and you get huge deficits, doesn't Pawlenty get ?   Can't say when this started historically, a good case can be made for JBJ, but then came Reagan and this doctrine became bi-partisan Holy Writ. At lest with RR it was still sorta reasonable and we did get a better Navy in the bargain. But then came George Jr and all caution was thrown to the winds.   Pawlenty does want to trim Social Security by eliminating COLAs for the rich, but WTH will that do ?  Very little, yet he also wants to basically keep entitlements at current levels for 90% of everyone. Paid for by the magical revenue stream ( which will materialize deus ex machina ) by eliminating a major chunk of gvt revenue sources.   This is supposed to make sense ?   Billy   ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------         message dated 6/7/2011 8:36:27 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, david.r.bl...@verizon.net writes: I did not know that Pawlenty HAD Libertarian tendencies. Maintaining entitlements is definitely NOT in that arena. David "There is no virtue in compulsory government charity, and there is no virtue in advocating it. A politician who portrays himself as "caring" and "sensitive" because he wants to expand the government's charitable programs is merely saying that he's willing to try to do good with other people's money. Well, who isn't? And a voter who takes pride in supporting such programs is telling us that he'll do good with his own money -- if a gun is held to his head."--P. J. O'Rourke On 6/7/2011 3:19 PM, bil...@aol.com wrote:   The "plan" was highlighted on he 700 Club today. Basically, we should maintain entitlements, with cosmetic cuts, a strong military, keep sucking up to big finance, etc and cut taxes to near zero. I'm not making this up. This isn't serious econ , it is quasi-libertarian fantasy land. Reaganomics on steroids. Or maybe more like GWB with a vengeance. Come to think of it, Pawlenty seems to want to become W2.   W1 was a disaster, why do we need a worse version ?   my humble opinion Teddy Roosevelt   ------------------------------------------------------------------------   message dated 6/7/2011 1:09:36 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, c...@2chahn.com writes: What did he say?  A quick scan of online news didn’t tell me anything.       -- Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community <RadicalCentrism@googlegroups.com> Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism Radical Centrism website and blog: http://RadicalCentrism.org -- Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community <RadicalCentrism@googlegroups.com> Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism Radical Centrism website and blog: http://RadicalCentrism.org