To judge from the local version of OWS, no  disagreement here.
So far, it is a 3 ring circus, to put it  one way, even if the main act
is economic discontent. But a lot of  "other stuff" is also going on.
 
Billy
 
 
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10/18/2011   [email protected]  writes:

If you are not really sure  what the occupy movement is about don't feel 
alone. At least 55% of the  population feel the same way. Since the movement 
is only a month old  that certainly isn't surprising. It takes longer than 
that for  a  grassroots movement to define itself and move forward or just 
fade away.  However with all the discontent here and in the rest of the  
industrialized world I think this will not be going away anytime  soon.
 
A lot of people on the  liberal side want to claim this movement for its 
own but in reality it  can't yet be claimed or criticized with any accuracy at 
this moment. Of  course the fringe elements are already calling it 
Communist or Fascist  depending on which side they are one. But then again the 
fringe element  is just that "on the edge."
 
I wouldn't call it  unregulated capitalism. More accurate would be the 
term,  runaway corporatism" much like the situation was at the turn of the  
20th 
century. Unfortunately we do not have a leader of the stature  of a Teddy 
Roosevelt, who can reel in the runway horse.
 
Tom



Quis custodiet ipsos  custodes?
 


--- On Mon, 10/17/11, Chris Hahn  <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Chris Hahn  <[email protected]>
Subject: [RC] Occupy Protests' Seismic  Effect
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday,  October 17, 2011, 10:22 AM

  
 
 
“Today’s  Wall Street protests represent the left’s _decoupling from  
Obama_ 
(http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AmrKe6r1jlX1ApKBBBgvPJC1qHQA;_ylu=X3oDMTFrM2g5cm4zBG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIEJvZHkEcG9zAzExBHNlYwNNZWRpYUFydGljbGVCb2R5QXNzZW1ibH
k-;_ylg=X3oDMTJqaXFnc3ExBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDYjcxZWRkYzUtY2Vl
Ny0zYzE0LThiMzEtMmQ1MTBiOTViMjQ4BHBzdGNhdAMEcHQDc3RvcnlwYWdl;_ylv=0/SIG=145r
qcnbb/EX
P=1320073775/**http:/www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/10/10/occupy-wall-street-protests-spell-trouble-for-obama-in-2012.html)
  and  the 
Democratic Party, something that the global nature of the movement  will only 
reinforce. That doesn’t mean the movement has a clear  critique of unregulated 
capitalism yet, let alone a concrete agenda  for reform, but it means that 
the left finally is forcing those  questions onto the public agenda. By 
confronting Wall Street, it is  creating the populist energy that Obama himself 
has  not.”

_http://news.yahoo.com/occupy-protests-seismic-effect-062600703.html_ 
(http://news.yahoo.com/occupy-protests-seismic-effect-062600703.html) 

I  still don’t know what to make of the “occupy” movement, but I thought  
this was interesting.  


“This past weekend, in 900 cities across  the world, tens of thousands 
_demonstrated against unregulated  capitalism_ 
(http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AvAaMYSijq.3yO4iij0R.MG1qHQA;_ylu=X3oDMTFqMDgxZXM0BG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIEJvZHkEcG9zAz
EEc2VjA01lZGlhQXJ0aWNsZUJvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTJqaXFnc3ExBGludGwDdXME
bGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDYjcxZWRkYzUtY2VlNy0zYzE0LThiMzEtMmQ1MTBiOTViMjQ4BHBz
dGNhdAMEcHQDc3RvcnlwYWdl;_ylv=0/SIG=1490inbhd/EXP=1320073775/**http:/www.the
dailybeast.com/articles/2011/10/15/rome-protests-black-bloc-militants-turn-o
ccupy-protests-violent.html) .”   


The  link in the sentence above leads to an article about anarchists taking 
 over the protests in Rome.  


Whatever the occupy movement represents, it  is tapping into something that 
activates a grass roots constituency.  Like the tea party in its roots 
days, this is a movement that  cannot be ignored.   


Chris   








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