Tom : Fascinating report. Maybe there is something comparable in a specialty journal somewhere, but I sure in heck don't know about any such thing. For me anyway, well worth knowing.
What is it about Korean culture that limits religion formation to sect formation ? What is it about Japanese culture that promotes it ? OR - Why is Korean culture --in this dimension of things-- like culture in the southern USA Why is Japanese culture like culture in California, Arizona, or Boston ? I don't think there are any simple answers. But whatever the answers are there would be implications for marketing, politics, and communications media. BTW, my sense of things is that Taiwan is sort of halfway between Korea / Japan. But until today I had no idea of the situation in ROK. so, had no way to make the comparison. Many thanks for the information. Billy 10/23/2011 10:46:15 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Billy After speaking with several people I have come to the conclusion that in your terms, there are no "new-new" religions to speak of in the ROK if you are speaking of the last 30 odd years.. Or they are so limited as to be "under the radar". In any event it is not like Japan. "New" religions (post WWII) would be several new Protestant sects That compete with the "old standbys" being Catholicism, Presbyterians and Methodists. The number of Christians has increased dramatically since the end of the Korean War in 1953. For the Koreans, according to some here the "new-new" religions (post WWII) are of course "The Unification Church" on the Christian side and a large presence on the Buddhist side of the Soka Gakkai. One of my neighbors is a retired history professor who many years in the Korean national system. He claims that recently (from the 80's) there is a renewed interest in Confucianism. This may be as a counter to the corruption in government and the lagging moral state of the nation according to some. I asked about Korean shamanism and most people said that today it is mainly about traditional Korean medicine although blessing are carried out of ships in the fishing fleet. Sorry I couldn't get more details. I'll keep looking in any event. Tom Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? --- On Wed, 10/19/11, Tomas de Utrera <[email protected]> wrote: From: Tomas de Utrera <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [RC] Christianity in South Korea To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, October 19, 2011, 8:54 AM Billy Those conditions do exist but as I have something better than the Internet and Google (about 300 live Korean born and educated neighbors) I'll check that source and then come up with a, I think, more reliable commentary. Tom Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? --- On Tue, 10/18/11, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [RC] Christianity in South Korea To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, October 18, 2011, 11:47 PM Question : In Japan there is / are a plethora of New Religions, and some are classified as New-New Religions ( founded more recently, especially in the past 20 years or so ) Anything similar in Korea ? Billy ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- 10/18/2011 8:36:43 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: To me this is sort of a "don't forget" article than something new. Korea has always had a problem (since 1945) with political corruption and religious ties. I live in a building that is about 60% Korean and 40% Japanese so the ROK both modern and historical are of great interest to me both from a practical viewpoint and a cultural one. Attempting to ascertain how many Buddhist there are in Korea or Japan is a monumental task given, as you know, the tenents of East Asian religion are traditionally eclectic and the people themselves are not exclusive in their religious commitments. Over the centuries the Koreans have developed something like the Japanese who follow three schools of thought with no qualms at all. But shamanism be it Shinto or the Korean version (Shingyo) is present in everyone's life, even those who are Christian follow it. It explains the birth of the Japanese or Korean people. Another thing is a person (like mu father-in-law) will tell you that they do not follow any religion yet they observe many Shinto rites and a death they have a Buddhist funeral that necessitates a name change. Christianity as a movement. in large numbers, is new to Korea. The 19th century did bring some find a few Catholic converts but the French managed to pillage a great deal of art using the religion as a tool. The real Christianizing of the country began with a great influx of Protestant missionaries following the Korean War and after its end in 1953. Most Korean Christians are only one or two generations (a few Catholics have been followers longer). During the Japanese occupation Christianity was frowned on a the few that there were faced a great deal of oppression. The whole approach to Christian thought in Korea is interesting because converts unknowingly often bring baggage from their former religion or the dominant religion of their nation. and Korea is a fine example of that since the new religion is relatively new to the country. Tom Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? --- On Mon, 10/17/11, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [RC] Christianity in South Korea To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Date: Monday, October 17, 2011, 2:38 PM For God and country ("The Economist," October 13, 2011) Seoul, South Korea - Korea has long been a hotbed of religiosity. Before a certain Kim Il Sung began having other ideas, Pyongyang (now the capital of North Korea) used to be known as “The Jerusalem of the East”. And in today’s Seoul, practitioners of traditional shamanism, Buddhism, Christianity and even cults such as the Unification Church (better known in the West as the Moonies), all have plenty of followers. Many of them also have lots of money (not least because religious institutions are tax-exempt). The Protestant church, in particular, seems to have produced a tribe of flashy, mansion-dwelling pastors. This is partly a result of the character of Korean Protestantism: a common theme, for instance, at the Yoido Full Gospel Church in Seoul is that a poor Christian is not a good Christian. However, it is also a result of the incentives created by the sheer size of some churches. Yoido itself ranks as the largest Christian congregation in the world, with over 1m members. Another, Somang Church, has hundreds of thousands of faithful, including South Korea’s president, Lee Myung-bak. With all these people throwing their spare won into the collection plate, mega-churches have become big businesses. Yoido Full Gospel Church’s founder Cho Yong-gi, who has run the congregation since 1958, has family interests ranging from private universities to newspapers. Members of his church were once asked to pray for higher sales for one of his titles. A pastor at a Seoul-based church of a mere 60,000 members notes that the likes of Yoido have become “so big, and with assets so huge, that human greed comes into play”. And in late September, following complaints by 29 church elders, prosecutors began investigating Mr Cho over the alleged embezzlement of 23 billion won ($20m) from Yoido’s funds. A documentary aired by MBC, a television station, claims that this money was used to buy property in America. The show also charged that Mr Cho’s wife sold a building constructed with collection money for her own gain. Its buyer was Hansei University—an institution where she also happens to be president. Mr and Mrs Cho deny the allegations. Yoido Church’s founder is rarely out of the news in South Korea. In March he sparked a storm of criticism by claiming the earthquake and tsunami in Japan was “God’s warning” to a country that follows “idol worship, atheism, and materialism”. He is also too political for some. When President Lee’s government drew up plans to legislate for Islamic sukuk bonds in South Korea, Mr Cho argued that this would aid “terrorists”, and that the president was forgetting the vital role the Protestant lobby had in electing him. Following concerted efforts by Mr Cho and other South Korean church leaders, the government blinked first, and the plan was dropped. There are plenty of rank-and-file Christians in South Korea who do not indulge in the cathedralism of the mega-pastors. Many of the underground networks helping North Koreans on the run in China are organised by South Korean Christians. Refugees who reach South Korea are often cared for by church groups, and South Korean church aid-agencies are usually among the first to respond to natural disasters around the world, including the Japanese tsunami in March. But in a country that thrives on group activities and collective bonding, as well as religion, Seoul is a natural home for mega-churches. The likes of Mr Cho, for all their flaws, provide something that millions of Koreans find irresistible. ____________________________________ -- Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community <[email protected]> Google Group: _http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism_ (http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism) Radical Centrism website and blog: _http://RadicalCentrism.org_ (http://radicalcentrism.org/) -- Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community <[email protected]> Google Group: _http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism_ (http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism) Radical Centrism website and blog: _http://RadicalCentrism.org_ (http://radicalcentrism.org/) -- Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community <[email protected]> Google Group: _http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism_ (http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism) Radical Centrism website and blog: _http://RadicalCentrism.org_ (http://radicalcentrism.org/) -- Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community <[email protected]> Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism Radical Centrism website and blog: http://RadicalCentrism.org
