Hi Billy,

On Nov 4, 2011, at 9:27 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> We also live in an empire. So the question is whether we are realistic
> about it or not. As I see  it, most Anarchists want us to destroy
> our own empire and become, ultimately, 50 republics, if not 150.
> The next war and we lose. This course is suicidal.
>  
> This is what is at stake. And to assume for one minute that our
> enemies will not take advantage of our weaknesses, well, that would
> be naive ^ 2.  That is, we are, after  a fashion, Great Britain in the
> 19th century, a benign empire. But better, we are a democratic empire.
> My view is "make the most of it."
>  
> Ernie does not think this way, or not usually, as you may have gathered.
> But about such matters we often agree to disagree. Besides, he brings all
> kinds of knowledge to the table that all of us find valuable.

I haven't explicitly considered the empire argument. There certainly is a moral 
case to be made for a Pax Americana, like it or not, which I haven't had time 
to digest.

However, I'd like to point out a possible point of agreement.  You were the one 
who told me that "War is usually a sign of failure somewhere else", I think.  
Perhaps you and Kevin are actually in agreement -- if we ran our empire 
"rationally" rather than based on myths, perhaps we could maintain and promote 
the kind of "human rights hegemony" we all want without having to be overtly 
militaristic.

That is, we conquer sneakily and (mostly) bloodlessly.

What do you think?  

-- Ernie P.


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