Mike :
You certainly "get" the idea of Radical  Centrism.  I don't think anyone 
here
could have said it better. Not at all  clear, however, what the relevance is
to social conservatives and values  issues. Kevin also made the point that
these kinds of issues matter to many,  many people.
 
How the government treats the less well  off ( or the poor as such ) is 
mostly,
at least as I see it, more a question  of economics and incentives. Is there
anyone who regards it as moral to  injure the well being of Americans
who live at poverty levels ?   Seems to me that, about this, there is no
moral issue at all, just a means/ends  issue, how to get the best result
in terms of $$ for both gvt and  individuals.
 
Generally, if not overwhelmingly,  "values" refers to a very different
set of issues, call them "hot button"  if you prefer. They have this 
designation
precisely because of emotional  responses they arouse. 
 
Billy
 
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11/10/2011 2:10:39 P.M. Pacific  Standard Time, [email protected] 
writes:

This all goes back to "arete" with me.   Whether the government or
private charity goes toward keeping the destitute  alive, the homeless
situation leaves the same economic drag either  way.  The false choice
here is between the liberal idea of keeping a  permanent underclass
just barely alive, or the conservative idea of denying  the legitimacy
of the problem.  Rather, I'd argue for a safety net  that brings the
destitute back to the starting line by medicating,  providing the bare
minimums, etc., but, in contrast with the current safety  net, has an
expectation of performance in return.

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