Tom : I don't capitalize political groups because of special feelings of respect. Well, usually not, anyway. Its just a custom of mine to use caps ( most of the time, I'm not always consistent ) for Socialism, Capitalism, Conservatism, Libertarianism, etc, the same way I use caps for Buddhism, Christianity, Zoroastrianism, Scientology and even Satanism. Doesn't mean anything except that these are proper nouns. But, yes, I think you pretty much nailed it. I will say, however, that I have seen the "infantile Left" in action going waaay back to the late 60s. No matter how pure in heart we may have been at the time, maybe waaaaay too naive also, along came the anarchists ( Anarchists , whatever ) to smash windows and cause mayhem. They never grow up. Except for a few brains here and there, the rest are total idiots. So it seems to me. Billy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 11/19/2011 7:10:41 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes:
These grass roots type movements are always interesting and often confusing to the by-stander. They have throughout history, especially modern history, more than not changed the course of human history. IMO they are 90% positive. When they have served their purpose they should be discarded but we humans like to hang on to stuff even when it has lost all relevance and usefulness (look at Cuba). Often they cannot choose who joins their ranks or not. Once the ball is rolling it's hard to control. Hard to control that is until..until one of the "official' political factions co-opts the movement. I no longer called these "official" groupings political parties but rather different factions of the same basic thought. This is a clever ploy employed in corporate style governments and it works well because most believe they are facing two completely different entities but in reality these factions have the same final purpose in mind and often work together behind the scenes to accomplish this end. A good recent example of co-opting a non-partisan grass roots movement was the Tea Party. While every one was trying to figure out what it wanted (the first few months and not all that dissimilar to the Occupy movement) it was co-opted by the so-called Republican faction and any real progress toward real reform in government was successfully curtailed within less than a year's time. It appears that the Occupy movement is heading down the same path. However because of the size and still nebulous scope of the movement the job of "co-opting" the movement is difficult. This time the co-opting is being attempted by the so-called Democrat faction. And this faction is not very adroit at co-opting grass roots movements or at least not in recent history. I don't think the movement is dead yet but the next couple of months will probably give us a better picture. The anarchists. As you see I don't capitalize the word because there is nothing to capitalize. It is just what the word implies. In this day and age IMO neither anarchism nor communism are demons any longer, at best they fall into the class of incubus. We might consider the approach that the so-called anarchists who appear to have infiltrated this movement are no more than a fifth column made up of the powers that be. The Establishment, of course, cannot allow this movement to succeed because different from the co-opted Tea Party this movement does not mean just few new seats in the Congress under the watchful eye of senior Washington insiders. It is an assault on the entire system of corporatism beginning with the banks and Wall Street. So if you cannot co-opt a movement you must destroy it and the best way is from within. This way one does not use outside forces to decimate their opponent but rather use "violence from within" which will drive many away from the movement and cause it to collapse on itself. This way no outside force can be blamed. A super winning strategy. The fifth column is the most effective tactic in this situation. Truly remarkable. The movement will have no one to blame but itself and any grievance brought up by members of the movement will simply be dismissed by the public at large as simple whining. The writer gives me the impression that the Occupy movement is a weapon of Obama's to counter the other faction. I disagree. The Occupy movement is certainly not an "Obamanation" and is aimed at both factions. The fact that many who have, in the past, undyingly supported both factions are taking up this cause. It is in that sense " an equal opportunity" movement. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? --- On Sat, 11/19/11, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [RC] The Brain-Dead Left vs the Irresponsible Financial-Services Right To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Date: Saturday, November 19, 2011, 3:04 PM Occupy Wall Street movement disintegrates It is safe enough to say, in mid-November 2011, that approximately half of the OWS movement has discredited itself. Not to make excuses, but as an attempt to explain what has been happening recently, the big problem has been the unwillingness of the movement to exclude Anarchists from its ranks, essentially youthful rabble whose "higher calling" in life is to throw brickbats at windows and at the police and the yell as loud as possible when excited. There have been legitimate grievances all along, of course. There still is that half of the movement that, in my humble opinion, deserves our thanks for the protests and calling attention to Wall Street's excesses, which have been monumental. All you need to do is think about events in Oakland or various other places to understand that OWS is falling apart, and giving everyone associated with it a bad name. Indeed, there are a number of criticisms to make. The WSJ article below offers a fair assessment of the problems. However, what it also does is to expose the mentality of Wall Streeters themselves, oblivious to their own responsibility in creating the financial mess that started to envelop the nation in 2007 and really got bad in late 2008. There is plenty to blame among politicians on Capitol Hill, no question about that, but to not blame Wall Street for its share of the debacle, well, this shows nothing but arrogance and the collapse of any kind of sense of responsibility on the part of the banking / financial services elite. Billy --------------------------------------------- Wall Street Journal NOVEMBER 17, 2011 The Brain-Dead Left Obamaville's incoherence is a symptom of intellectual exhaustion By _JAMES TARANTO_ (http://online.wsj.com/search/term.html?KEYWORDS=JAMES+TARANTO&bylinesearch=true) "They paused to scream at the walls of a Citibank branch." To our mind, that sentence more than anything we've read encapsulates the spirit of Obamaville. It originally appeared in a _San Francisco Chronicle_ (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/11/16/MNDP1M07K8.DTL&; tsp=1) story about an incident in which "dozens of college students" invaded a Bank of America Branch, "pitching a tent and chanting 'shame, shame' until they were arrested." On the way to B of A, they paused at Citi to scream at the walls. These are college students, acting like 2-year-olds throwing a tantrum. What does that tell you about their critical thinking skills--and about the standards of American higher education? The likes of the New York Times expect us to take such incoherent spasms of rage seriously as a political "movement." What does that tell us about the standards of the liberal media? At the Puffington Host, _Robert Reich_ (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-reich/supreme-court-occupy-wall-street_b_1097489.html) , who served as President Clinton's labor secretary and is now a professor of public policy at the University of California's flagship Berkeley campus, issues a preposterous defense of the Obamavillians, allegedly on First Amendment grounds. He begins by rehearsing the standard left-liberal lament that the First Amendment prohibits the government from censoring speech merely because the speakers choose to organize themselves as corporations. That leads to this non sequitur: This is where the Occupiers come in. If there's a core message to the Occupier movement it's that the increasing concentration of income and wealth poses a grave danger to our democracy. Yet when Occupiers seek to make their voices heard--in one of the few ways average people can still be heard--they're told their First Amendment rights are limited. The New York State Court of Appeals [sic; actually a state trial judge] along with many mayors and other officials say [sic] Occupiers can picket--but they can't encamp. Yet it's the encampments themselves that have drawn media attention (along with the police efforts to remove them). A bunch of people carrying pickets isn't news. When it comes to making views known, picketing is no competition for big money. In reality, the First Amendment guarantees the right to freedom of speech--to state one's views without government censorship or the fear thereof. It guarantees no one the right to make "news." Nor does it guarantee the right to engage in unlawful behavior with the purpose of "making views known." It is true that constitutional "speech" goes beyond the exercise of the vocal function and includes symbolic actions. Perhaps the most famous example is the burning of an American flag, which the Supreme Court in 1989 held to be "symbolic" speech. But it is not the act of burning that is protected by the First Amendment. _Texas v. Johnson _ (http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=491&invol=397) did not strike down fire codes, or even set out an exception to them for expressive purposes. It said the government may not penalize the specific act of burning a flag because of that act's symbolic meaning. Similarly, if, say, the New York City Police Department allowed Tea Partiers but not Obamavillians to camp out for months at Zuccotti Park, that would be a First Amendment problem. But the law, in all its majestic equality, forbids the right, as well as the left, from sleeping in a publicly accessible park. Breaking the law may be an effective way to call attention to one's ideas, but that motive does not confer a right to do so. What do we want? Uh . . . On a related note: What ideas? Burning the flag is an act of symbolic speech that carries an easily comprehensible message: "I hate America." By contrast, camping out in a park, or screaming at a bank, is literally unintelligible. Reich claims to be translating these actions and noises into English when he writes that the "core message" is "that the increasing concentration of income and wealth poses a grave danger to our democracy." That itself is a rather nugatory assertion, but it's also what Reich believes. We suspect he heard it in his own head, not in the screams of the San Francisco college students. There is no basis to credit the screamers with any thought. We assume they are merely stupid, ignorant, immature or all of the above. The left's embrace of a "movement" based on nonsense is a symptom of its own intellectual bankruptcy. Drew Westen--best known for his _massive New York Times op-ed_ (http://bit.ly/nKlTAj) in August calling on President Obama to govern by telling fairy tales, has more comedy gold in an _online Times piece_ (http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/16/decision-2013/) in which he puzzles over why Obama has so often delayed the taking of decisions and implementation of policies, ranging from the Keystone XL pipeline to ObamaCare. He toys with the idea that it is a psychological defect: Decades ago, psychoanalysts identified a particular personality style common among high-achieving men (although not limited to them), and in recent years researchers have been hot on its trail. People with this style (not narcissism, although that would be a good guess) prefer to see themselves as logical and rational, uninfluenced by emotion, and to think in abstract and intellectualized ways, as if emotions were irrelevant or inconsequential to decision making--when in fact they are essential to it. Whether that describes this president I cannot say, although he has been described by a close aide, and similarly by others, as "the most unsentimental man I've ever met." "A second possibility," he writes, "is that the president either doesn't know or doesn't want anyone else to know what he believes": During the 2008 election, I remember listening incredulously to focus groups as swing voters would repeatedly say about a man they had watched for two years, "I don't know who he is." Now I understand what they meant. No modern American president has ever managed to make it through nearly three years in the White House with so few people really having any idea what he believes on so many key issues--let alone what his vision for the country is. Isn't the real explanation pretty obvious? Obama has multiple degrees from Ivy League colleges and spent a good deal of his career as a part-time professor. At Columbia, Harvard and the University of Chicago, he absorbed the politically correct nostrums of the academic left. But he didn't pick up much by way of critical thinking skills (although at least he doesn't scream at banks). He didn't have to learn how to think, since he was thinking all the "right" thoughts anyway. So he came to office with lots of ideological preconceptions but no ability to adapt or innovate. As a result, he is simply in over his head intellectually--at the mercy of allies, opponents and events. The other night we happened to catch Harvard's Laurence Tribe, a leading liberal legal scholar, being interviewed on television by Charlie Rose about the ObamaCare cases the Supreme Court had just agreed to take up. It struck us that Tribe, an enthusiastic booster of ObamaCare, seemed a lot less confident that the government would prevail than he was earlier this year. We went back and read _our column_ (http://bit.ly/qbvaZV) on the subject, from Feb. 8, in which we analyzed two op-eds, one by Tribe and one by Yale's Akhil Amar. In response to a Florida trial judge's ruling that ObamaCare was unconstitutional, both professors asserted that he was wrong--but neither bothered to argue his case. Amar was even worse than Tribe: "My students understand the Constitution better than the judge," he scoffed. Because so many intellectuals are on the left, the intellectual dissolution of the left over the past few decades has been easy to overlook. But really, with the exception of same-sex marriage, can you think of a single new idea that has come out of the left since Lyndon Johnson was president? The ObamaCare case illustrates the point beautifully: The so-called individual mandate was originally a conservative idea--though, to be sure, one of the worst conservative ideas ever. But whereas a progressive of Obama's age is at least capable of borrowing bad ideas from the right, the next generation screams at banks. _All You Do to Me Is Talk, Talk _ (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-galston/obama-economy-2012-_b_1098188.html) Writing at the Puffington Host, William Galston of the Brookings Institution has some campaign advice for President Obama: First, he must acknowledge Americans' sense of being stuck and then explain why recovery from this downturn has been so painfully slow--in particular, the impact of the financial collapse and our excessive debt burden, private as well as public. Second, he must display some humility and acknowledge that he didn't get everything right. It was a mistake not to underscore the difficulty of our circumstances right from the start. It was a mistake to predict that unemployment would peak at 8 percent if his stimulus bill were enacted. While it was necessary to save the big financial institutions from a total meltdown, it was a mistake to ask so little from them institutions [sic] in return. And it was a mistake to act so timidly in the face of a housing and mortgage crisis that has cost the middle class many trillions of dollars in lost wealth. Third, he should emphasize what most Americans believe: without the steps his administration took at the depth of the crisis, there might well have been a second Great Depression. Sure, "It could have been much worse" isn't much of a bumper sticker, but it's a place to start, and it has the merit of being true. There are a few more points, but let's just take this part and reduce it to the verbs. Galston advises Obama to acknowledge, explain, display, acknowledge (again) and emphasize. All of these verbs are essentially synonyms for "talk"--except "display," which in this context is a metaphor for "talk." Thus shorter Galston: To win re-election, Obama should talk, talk, talk, talk and talk. Though come to think of it, that did work in 2008. -- Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community <[email protected]> Google Group: _http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism_ (http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism) Radical Centrism website and blog: _http://RadicalCentrism.org_ (http://radicalcentrism.org/) -- Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community <[email protected]> Google Group: _http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism_ (http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism) Radical Centrism website and blog: _http://RadicalCentrism.org_ (http://radicalcentrism.org/) -- Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community <[email protected]> Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism Radical Centrism website and blog: http://RadicalCentrism.org
