New poll out today, people who favor Obamacare = 41 %
                                   "         "     oppose       "         = 
 47 %
 
 
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11/23/2011 9:49:04 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected]  
writes:

I would like that, too. I just think that  government has made too many 
things "its job." Like taking over the  administration of health care. Surely 
we will not find that only Democratic  contributors get the most expensive 
treatments, or will we?  

David

  _   
 
"Remember,  to a liberal, anyone who makes money in an endeavor frowned 
upon by liberals  is 'greedy' and any person who expresses an idea contrary to 
basic liberal  dogma is preaching 'hate.'  How  shallow these people are."—
Neal  Boortz  



On 11/23/2011 10:25  PM, [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])  wrote:  
 
Actually, the "issue" of Big Government is mostly a non-issue for  me.
I want the government to do its job, to be efficient, not to be  corrupt,
not to be owned by special interests, to spend in a ruthlessly  responsible 
way,
to levy taxes that are necessary and not one dime more, and to be  based
on actual justice and objective evaluations of our problems. The  size
of gvt is FAR less important to me than if it does these things
or does not do these things.
 
Billy
 
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11/23/2011 5:18:39 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected]_ 
(mailto:[email protected])   writes:

I thought that you liked big  government and lots of regulators and 
regulations. 

And it should  probably be titled "How Bigger Government props up Big 
Finance," because  the Government would have to be big enough to support not 
only 
its weight,  but also the weight of "Big Finance" in order to be able to 
prop the  latter up.  

David 

  _   
 
"Remember,  to a liberal, anyone who makes money in an endeavor frowned 
upon by  liberals is 'greedy' and any person who expresses an idea contrary to  
basic liberal dogma is preaching 'hate.'  How shallow these people are."—
Neal Boortz   



On 11/23/2011 5:04  PM, [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])   wrote:  



Real Clear Politics / Real Clear Markets
 
 
 
November 22, 2011  
How Government Props Up Big  Finance
By _Marc Joffe & Anthony Randazzo_ 
(http://www.realclearmarkets.com/authors/?id=22241) 

Since medieval times, writers and ethicists have counted envy among  the 
seven deadly sins. In utilitarian terms, envy is at best a zero-sum  game 
because it can only be satisfied when someone loses. 
Given this moral and practical failing, it is a shame that envy plays  such 
a large role in the Occupy Wall Street protests spread around the  country. 
And, yet, the Occupy movement does have a point that transcends  this 
negative emotion: the financial industry has grown large on the  backs of 
government handouts, manipulated regulation, and taxpayer  bailouts.

 
While there is no objective size the financial industry should be, it  is 
fair to say it would never have become this large without the crony  
capitalist system that has masqueraded as a free market. In the process,  the 
financial industry has absorbed resources that could better be used  elsewhere 
while imposing large, systemic risks on the economy. Watching  others grow rich 
from special privilege understandably leads to envy,  but from this 
perspective, the high compensation received by financial  industry leaders is 
merely a symptom of a much larger problem. 
Big finance has achieved its present girth on the back of numerous  policy 
decisions - some going back centuries. Many of these policies had  the 
intention of protecting the general public, but often had the  unintended 
consequence of enriching bankers beyond the product of their  labor. 
For example, central banks often seek to encourage growth by lowering  
interest rates for small businesses and individuals. But in the process  it is 
mainly large banks that benefit from higher margins, as the Fed  provides 
lendable funds at a steep discount - not all of which is shared  with 
borrowers. Federal policies designed to assist homebuyers also  benefit 
mortgage 
investors and grant them taxpayer supported guarantees  they will get paid 
(bailing out Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac has already  cost $182 billion as a 
result). 
Subsidized mortgages also result in higher home prices - undermining  
affordability goals. Over the long term, consumers become more  leveraged, 
while 
financial firms collect more interest and fees. 
But special privileges to the financial industry predate  discretionary 
monetary policy and subsidized lending. Indeed, these  privileges are so 
embedded in our system, they never occur to us.  Perhaps the most distortionary 
of 
these is banking licenses that offer  limited liability. Without such 
licenses, bank owners would have to use  their personal assets to redeem 
deposits 
if borrowers default. Limited  liability reduces the bank owners' risk to 
just their initial  investment. The large number of state banking licenses 
granted during  the nineteenth century allowed "one-percenters" of that era to 
profit  from borrowing and lending, without worrying about large losses. 
They  could also grow their institutions by making loans to less creditworthy  
borrowers, thereby creating systemic risk. 
This risk was usually shouldered by depositors, who often lost money  
during bank runs. During the Depression, the federal government solved  this 
problem by creating deposit insurance. FDIC insurance enabled banks  to grow 
even more, and it also freed them to take on even greater risks,  since 
depositors no longer worried about how their funds were being  deployed.
 
As financial institutions have grown and consolidated over the years,  some 
have become so systematically important that they have been deemed  too big 
to fail. These institutions are now effectively eligible for  bailouts in 
which all creditors - and not just small depositors - are  made whole while 
management can either remain in place, or walk away  with all their previous 
compensation plus a severance package to  boot. 
These protections and hidden subsidies have enabled the financial  industry 
to achieve enormous size and profitability, while placing the  overall 
economy at great risk. Usually, these protections were  accompanied by 
regulations such as capital requirements or size  restrictions. These 
regulations 
usually failed to achieve their intended  results - especially over the long 
term - because financial institutions  are able to wear down the restrictions 
by lobbying and by hiring away  key regulators.
 
Instead of adding to the quantity of regulation, thereby creating  more 
opportunities for the financial industry to game the system, we  should tame 
the financial beast through greater accountability. One way  to do this is to 
add a 10 percent co-insurance feature to FDIC insurance  for deposits above 
$10,000. Depositors with $11,000 in a failed bank  would receive $10,900; 
while those with a $250,000 balance would get  $226,000. 
Depositors would not be wiped out in the event of a failure, but they  
would have an incentive to select banks that are more careful with their  money 
(while the poorest are still fully protected). Banks would then  have to 
compete for depositor business, in part, by demonstrating that  they have 
strong risk management. 
Those with exposure above the FDIC limit should take at least a 25  percent 
haircut through the resolution process in the event of a bank  failure. 
These stakeholders are often large financial institutions,  acting as 
counterparties, who have the skill and resources to more  closely monitor the 
banks 
with which they deal. This reform would  address one of the most disturbing 
episodes of the financial crisis:  Goldman Sachs' full recovery on CDO 
insurance contracts that triggered  the AIG bailout. Certainly low and middle 
income taxpayers had better  uses for this money than awarding it to the highly 
compensated financial  wizards at Goldman. 
Bank managers should also have more skin in the game. If a bank fails  or 
receives a bailout, directors, senior managers and highly compensated  
employees should have to repay creditors or the government at least a  portion 
of 
past compensation they received from their failed  institutions - 
particularly compensation tied to performance. Fear of  impoverishment would 
have a 
substantial impact on the risk appetites for  those leading major financial 
institutions. 
Finally, federally subsidized or guaranteed loans should be  restricted to 
the truly needy. Today, mortgages of up to $625,500 can be  purchased by 
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac on the federal government's  credit card. This 
subsidy should be limited to homes that are below the  median price for a given 
area. If financial industry players want to  originate mortgages to members 
of the upper middle class, they should be  willing to assume the full risk of 
providing these loans. 
Indiscriminately taxing the rich is an envy-driven policy that only  
marginally addresses Wall Street's size, profitability and systemic  risk. 
Vindication should always be discarded in favor of an effective  reprieve. 
Policies 
that require financial industry participants to  shoulder more of the risks 
they create will reduce the burden Wall  Street imposes on the general 
public, will shrink the industry, and will  release human talent for higher and 
better purposes. 
Rather than demotivate the next Steve Jobs, or reduce the resources  Bill 
Gates deploys to fight AIDS and malaria, let's instead focus the  Occupiers' 
energy on advocating solutions that truly improve the lives  of the 99 
percent.
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