Dear Billy

I very much appreciated your statement on why we need faith and am in full
agreement with what you wrote to which I added AMEN. The students I have in
my beginning Hebrew classes in spite of a majority of them having had some
connection with a synagogue to which their parents dragged them, are
Biblical illiterates. Among the non-Jewish students, the numbers are not
much different. 


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tongue and a belief in Hebrew as "The Mother of Languages," it figured
prominently in ...


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In an introductory article I have them read on Hebrew (see above), I mention
a dozen out of at least 150 Biblical quotations that

Many "uneducated" Americans in previous generations were familiar with and
could probably cite chapter and verse and ask the class how many of them
they understand as metaphors and what under what circumstances were they
used. Usually, the response is one or two with many of them scoring a ZERO.

 

Norman

 

 

 

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Subject: [RC] The Problem of Biblical Illiteracy

 

One point of disagreement with the article, seemingly small but actually
very large.

 

"The Bible says that God's word was given to transform our lives, not simply


to inform our lives," he tells viewers. "It wasn't given to increase our
knowledge, 

but to change our lives."

 

This is NOT  Either / Or ,   it is  Both / And

Faith based on less than accurate knowledge is flawed faith, 

just as faith that makes no difference in life is flawed faith.

 

Knowledge is foundational to faith or else just what do you have ?

Does faith based on ignorance make any sense ?

 

You need both. And both are essential, like two wings, 

or else a bird does not fly.

 

Billy

 

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 Christian Post > Church  <http://www.christianpost.com/church-ministries/>
& Ministries|Thu, Dec. 29 2011 09:36 AM EDT 


Rick Warren to Tackle Biblical Illiteracy With '40 Days in the Word'


By Alex Murashko <http://www.christianpost.com/author/alex-murashko/>  |
Christian Post Reporter

 

Wel-known for starting Bible study campaigns that often become staples for
churches around the world, Pastor Rick Warren
<http://www.christianpost.com/topics/rick-warren/>  announced that
Saddleback Church in Orange County will begin a "40 Days in the Word" study
next month to tackle biblical illiteracy.

Warren, whose bestselling book The Purpose Driven Life was a accompanied by
a "40 Days of Purpose" study for small groups, said in a video introducing
the new campaign that he has three goals for "our entire church family."

"First, I want you to learn to love the Word more than anything else in your
life, that you love it like you've never loved it before. Then, learn the
Word in a way that you've never learned it before. And I want you to live
the word like you've never lived it before," said Warren in the short video
on the church's website.

"The Bible says that God's word was given to transform our lives, not simply
to inform our lives," he tells viewers. "It wasn't given to increase our
knowledge, but to change our lives."

Warren said that when asked about which translation of the Bible is best, he
once told a man, "The best translation is when you translate it into your
life." When he was told by the man that he had a Living Bible translation,
Warren replied, "You ought to be a living Bible."

He went on to say, "We are either testimonies for God or we are testimonies
for the evil one."

 

"God says he want His word to dwell in our hearts. It's a journey that you
are going to be glad that you came with me on," he concludes in the video. 

Explaining the motivation behind the project, Warren lamented on Wednesday
during a year-end webcast that one of the convictions he got this past year
"is that Americans are biblically illiterate."

"They just don't know the Word of God ... Our parents' generation knew the
Word of God pretty well. My generation knew a little bit. The next
generation knows none of it."

Warren is not without controversy for his purpose-driven preaching methods,
even within the Christian community. His "life application" style of
teaching has some pastors <http://www.christianpost.com/topics/pastors/>
saying Warren's method is not biblically correct.

However, Warren recently explained his teaching methods in an interview with
Preaching Magazine. In the interview discussing the 40 Days in the Word
campaign, he was asked about his approach to preaching, which most times
includes having every point of his sermon outline being a statement of
application.

Warren told the interviewer that "the deepest kind of preaching is really
life application preaching. I know people say, 'Well that's shallow
preaching.' Actually it's much deeper. It's quite easy simply to do an
exposition of a book. I've done it. I once preached through the Book of
Romans; it took me two and a half years.

"I preached through many of the books of the Bible verse by verse. That's
actually the easiest kind of preaching there is. I pull some commentaries
off the shelf. I look at the text; I explain the text; I apply the text; and
that's it..."

Warren continued in the interview: "Life application preaching is not
shallow; otherwise the Sermon on the Mount is the shallowest sermon ever
done, because it's 100 percent life application preaching.

"Jesus started out by saying: Let Me tell you eight ways to be happy.
Blessed are you if you do this; blessed are you if you do this. He says: Let
Me give you six reasons to not worry; and He goes into the six reasons to
not worry. Then He says: Let Me tell you about divorce: Don't do it. Let Me
tell you about anger: Don't do it. One life application after another. Then
He gets to the end and says: If you do this, you're smart and you're wise.
If you don't, you're dumb."

While some pastors say verse-by-verse teaching is the only way to give
sermons, Warren explained in the interview that the opposite is true.

"Ecclesiastes 12:9-11 is, in my understanding, the clearest explanation of a
preaching style found in Scripture. You certainly don't find anybody telling
you how to do verse-by-verse or book-by-book preaching in Scripture. It's
not there. None of the apostles were verse-by-verse preachers. Jesus wasn't,
Peter, Paul - nobody was," he said.

Ecclesiastes 12:9-11 (NIV)
Not only was the Teacher wise, but he also imparted knowledge to the people.
He pondered and searched out and set in order many proverbs. The Teacher
searched to find just the right words, and what he wrote was upright and
true. The words of the wise are like goads, their collected sayings like
firmly embedded nails-given by one shepherd.

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...the sayings of the wise are sharp as goads, like nails driven home...

New English Bible

 

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