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God & Punishment
Posted by _Mike  LaBossiere_ (http://blog.talkingphilosophy.com/?author=12) 
 on December 31, 2011

 
A while back I saw Rick Perry receive thunderous applause for the  number 
of executions in the state of Texas. More recently I saw his video in  which 
he claims that he is not ashamed to admit he is  a Christian. Thanks  to 
Rick, I started thinking about God and punishment.  
On many conceptions of God, God punishes and rewards people for their deeds 
 and misdeeds when they reach the afterlife. This afterlife might be in 
Heaven or  Hell. It might also be a post first life Resurrection in the flesh  
followed by judgement and reward or punishment. In any case, those who 
believe  in God generally also believe in a system of divine rewards and 
punishments that  are granted or inflicted post death. 
Interestingly, people who believe in such a divine system generally also  
accept a system of punishment here on earth. Some, like Perry, strongly 
support  capital punishment here on earth while also professing to be of the 
Christian  faith (and thus believing in divine punishment). 
The stock justifications for punishment (like executions) include  
retribution, reparation, and deterrence. In the case of retribution, the  idea 
is 
that a misdeed warrants a comparable punishment as a just response. In  the 
case of reparation, the idea is that the wrongdoer should be compelled to  
provide compensation for the damage done by his/her misdeeds. Deterrence,  
obviously enough, aims at motivating the wrongdoer to not do wrong again and to 
 
motivate others not to do wrong. 
When it comes to punishment, it seems reasonable to accept certain moral  
limits. At the very least, the severity and quantity of punishment would need 
to  be justified. At the very least, the punishment should be on par with 
the crime  in terms if its severity and quantity (otherwise it merely creates 
more wrong).  Punishment without adequate moral justification would seem to 
be morally  unacceptable and would seem to be wrongdoing under the name of 
punishment rather  than justice. 
Getting back to God, suppose that God exists and does inflict divine  
punishments for misdeeds. If this is the case, then it would seem to be  
unreasonable, perhaps even immoral, for human courts to inflict punishment for  
crimes that God also punishes. 
First, if God punishes people for their misdeeds, then there is no need to  
seek retribution for crimes here on earth. After all, if someone believes 
in  divine justice, they would also need to believe that mortal retribution  
is unnecessary-after all, whether we punish the wrongdoer or not, just  
retribution shall occur after the wrongdoer dies. If we do punish a wrongdoer,  
then God would presumably need to subtract out our punishment from the  
punishment he inflicts-otherwise He would be overdoing it. As such, mortal  
retribution is simply a waste of time-unless, of course, it takes some of the  
load of an allegedly omnipotent being. 
Second, if God rewards good deeds and punishes misdeeds, then there would  
seem to be no need for reparations here on earth. After all, if someone 
steals  my laptop, then God will see to it that s/he gets what s/he deserves 
and 
so will  I. That is, all the books will be balanced after death. As such, 
if someone  believes in divine justice, then there seems to be little sense 
in worrying  about reparation here on earth. After all, if we will just be 
here for a very  little while then what will my laptop matter in the scope of 
eternity? Not a  bit, I assure you. 
Third, if God inflicts divine punishments and hands out divine rewards, it  
would seem absurd to try to deter people with mortal punishments. If 
someone  believes that murderers are not deterred by the threat of Hell (or the 
 
hope of Heaven), then they surely would not think that the mere threat of 
bodily  death would have deterrent value. To use an analogy, if I knew that a 
friend of  mine would shoot anyone who tried to hurt me, it would be odd of 
me to tell  someone who threatened to harm me that I would poke them with a 
toothpick. After  all, if the threat of being shot would not deter them, the 
threat of a poke with  a toothpick surely would not work. 
It might be argued that we need to punish people here because not everyone  
believes in God. To use an analogy, if I told people that I am protected by 
 a sniper armed with a .50 caliber rifle, they might still make a go at me  
if they did not believe in the sniper. As such, I would want to show them 
my  pistol to deter them. Likewise, to deter non-believers we would want to 
have  jails and lethal injections to scare them away from misdeeds. After 
all, while  some people might not believe in God, everyone believes in prison. 
Of course, the fact that we rely on prisons and other punishments  for 
deterrence does seem to indicate that we regard God’s divine justice as  having 
very little deterrence value-unless, of course, it is claimed  that 
criminals are atheists or agnostics. 
There is also the usually concern that God does not seem particularly  
concerned with deterring misdeeds. After all, while religious texts present  
various threats of divine punishment, there is no evidence that God actually  
punishes the wicked and this certainly cuts into the deterrence value  of His 
punishments. To use an analogy, imagine if I told my students that  
cheating in my class would be punished by the Chair of Student Punishments for  
Philosophy Classes and the punishment would take place after graduation. 
Imagine  that a student turned in a plagiarized paper and cheated like mad on 
the 
tests,  yet I did nothing and simply entered in grades as if everything was 
fine and  nothing happened.  Imagine that the students never see the alleged 
chair  and the only evidence they have for her existence is the fact that 
she is listed  on my syllabus and a little sign I put up on an empty office. 
As might be  imagined, the students would not deterred from cheating. 
If there really was a Chair of Student Punishment for Philosophy Classes, 
she  would make an appearance in the class and administer punishments as soon 
as she  was aware of the violations. The same would seem to be true of God. 
Crudely put,  if He does exist and metes out justice, then we would not 
need to punish (at  least in the case of the misdeeds that concern Him). If we 
do need to punish,  then it would seem that either He does not exist or He 
does not dispense divine  justice.

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