Billy,
It certainly is depressing and it is hard to keep one's head above water with
all the "dunkings" 'the man in the street' suffers. We keep putting our trust
in those who least deserve it and they keep lying to us. It's an age old
problem that man never seems to solve. There is much truth in the old Spanish
saying that "Man is the only animal on the planet who trips over the same rock
twice." We never learn or at least the learning process grows at a snails pace.
We have been fed the lines about equality, fairness, that most elusive concept
democracy" and in today's world more elusive yet; "representative democracy".
But we still wind up in the same place with little or no satisfaction for the
average man.
For ages, leaders , be they kings, queens, emperors, clerics or elected
officials, or maybe we should say "selected" officials have told their subjects
that things will get better and everyone will share power and wealth. I don't
mean simply taking it from the rich and giving it blindly as we do with foreign
aid. I am speaking more of opportunities. Little has come of this although
there are a few things we can say have functioned over the past millennium.
The only thing we have been allowed to fully share with our leaders is
responsibility (and often fir their individual acts) but the other two are
still more elusive than they should be. Simply put you and I share with our
leaders is culpability. A few simple examples in our own society are things
like "We had to use the A-bomb." This "we" is all inclusive. It should be They
because the average Joe on the street didn't know about the bomb until it was
dropped. Hell, Harry S Truman didn't know about it until FDR died. "We"? I
don't think so. This has happened over and over throughout the history of man.
"We", more often than not, get collective shared guilt and find ourselves
responsible for things we never knew existed.
If this is going to continue to be out form of government I might just prefer a
military dictatorship....at least I know where I stand with that.
Many of us who feel we need that third party are simply looking for a form of
collective power sharing. As it stands right now there will be no sharing of
power if it is left up to our present leaders.
Tom
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
--- On Wed, 1/4/12, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [RC] [ RC ] Brief look at Iowa results and etc " INEPTOCRACY "
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, January 4, 2012, 6:32 PM
Tom :
Think I will borrow your definition for our system of government --with
attribution,
of course. "Ineptocracy" really nails it.
I was just talking to my brother ; what I said to him was pretty much what you
just said
in your e-mail. This is depressing.
Billy
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1/4/2012 4:15:48 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes:
Stay or go. These people are proving that they are cut from the same cloth as
their so called "opposition". Again we face an election cycle that is totally
devoid of leadership. Once in Washington they will forget about us and think
only of the people who supported and funded them with billions and those who
gave from the heart,$5, $10 or $50 will soon be forgotten. It's time for a
change and that is not the change the present administration brought us.
Nothing has changed and nothing will until WE change and change the system
enough so it is not a refuge for charlatans, mountebanks and carpet-baggers.
For the American people it all boils down to the same thing again "The lesser
of two evils," or "The devil you know better than the one you don't". 2004 all
over again.
Corporate American will pick the president again as usual. Whoever best serves
their corporate handlers will get the call. But the POTUS is only part of the
problem. The Congress is a do nothing Congress again and their incompetence
threatens the very fabric of the nation. We need a complete overhaul. A third
party is the only way we will be able to break this partisan gridlock. If we
continue down the same road we will wind up, sooner or later, with
Ineptocracy (in-ept-oc-ra-cy) - a system of government whereby the least
capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the
members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed are rewarded
with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing
number of producers.
I hate to be a pessimist but when the government has stage four cancer and is
in denial there is little to be optimistic about. The system, so it appears, is
no longer self correcting.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
--- On Wed, 1/4/12, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [RC] Brief look at Iowa results and what to expect for New
Hampshire
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, January 4, 2012, 11:31 AM
Perry just announced he is staying in -at least until SC
1/4/2012 9:03:00 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes:
Ron Paul has his predetermined group. Santorum is going to reap the rewards of
Bachmann and (likely) Perry dropping out, but New Hampshire is only 2%
evangelical so he's not going to be able to depend on that factor. If the "Not
Romney" voters go to Huntsman, then he's going to be able to reintroduce
himself to the nation. If "Not Romney" gravitates to Santorum, then Huntsman
will have miscalculated and he'll have a Giuliana 08' situation on his hands. I
don't think Newt has anything going for him in New Hampshire. When he comes up
dead last, then it'll be time for him to reassess his candidacy.
http://www.northamericanmissions.org/files/From%2035000%20to%2015000%20Feet%20%20Evangelical%20Statistics%20in%20the%20US%20and%20Canada.pdf
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 11:39 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
1/4/2012 8:37:14 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes:
No idea. Won't have a sense of things for a few days.
Does it seem possible that Huntsman might get some traction to surge (as so
many others have)? I think Huntsman is an interesting guy who may have
centrist leanings.
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 9:24 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: [RC] Brief look at Iowa results and what to expect for New Hampshire
Will this be Ron Paul's high water mark ? At least according to some pundits
in no other state does RP have factors in his favor that he had in Iowa.
Santorum probably won't do better in NH than Huckabee did in 2008 ( 11 % )
Bachmann out. Perry likely out also. Huntsman out after NH unless
he does surprisingly well.
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Caucus Results
10:58 AM ET | 100% reporting
Candidate
Votes
Percent
Delegates*
Mitt Romney
30,015
24.6%
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Rick Santorum
30,007
24.5+
—
Ron Paul
26,219
21.4
—
Newt Gingrich
16,251
13.3
—
Rick Perry
12,604
10.3
—
Michele Bachmann
6,073
5.0
—
Others
1,086
0.9
—
Jon Huntsman
745
0.6
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