>From the article...

"It describes online learning as a preferred mode that is actively selected,
not "settled for." For years, students, teachers, and university professors
have been mindlessly chasing outcomes described in "no significant
difference" research (Grandzol & Grandzol, 2006)... Instead of simulating
traditional environments with digital tools, we need to reinvent the
environment."

This is a critical point.  When I started my Capella Ph.D., my hoped-for
outcome was "no significant difference".  After getting into the curriculum
for a while, I realized that there was a significant difference, and for me
it was better.  I was able to squeeze more focused value from my terminal
graduate education because I had well-defined goals and a high degree of
motivation.  

 

On the other hand, I would never substitute my bricks and mortar bachelor's
degree experience with an online substitute.  At that post-high school stage
of life I needed the face to face interpersonal interactions that I got
every day.  My 4 years at Hope College were transformational not just
because of what I learned in the classrooms; those years marked a
significant developmental stage for me.  

 

Online education can now be thought of a form of higher learning that is
superior for some students and areas of study.  Likewise, traditional
college and university programs will be better for other situations.

 

Chris   

 

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From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected]
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 2:27 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: [RC] Re: [ RC ] Article: Manifesto for Teaching Online.....Flexible
Learning

 

Ernie :
The manifesto you sent makes valid enough points. Still, it would be a good
idea

to repeat my previous comments about a "best mix" of educational
alternatives.

A switch from all lectures all the time to all virtual ed all the time

is not what I was talking about, as worthwhile as online courses

and other learning options  may be.

 

Not sure if the concept is registering. Maybe it can't because of Apple's

product emphasis. Nothing the least wrong with hardware that people can buy

but as I look at it, that approach is kind of like the approach of textbook
people

who seem to think that all knowledge comes from their products.

 

I'm not knocking textbook, either, well maybe in a full length essay I
would,

for a number of reasons, but to keep this simple.

 

>From an educator's perspective the "ideal" college education would consist

of a blend of a number of learning alternatives. Computers  are important

but they aren't the whole picture.

 

Its kinda like Nike, which is very big at U of O since Phil Knight is an
alum

and has a serious interest in Oregon sports. Hence the fashion-statement
football

uniforms that Nike provides the team, hence Matt basketball arena, hence

other new sports facilities and no-expense-spared coaches to make

world class athletics normative around here.

 

But Phil Knight has also invested ( donated ) lotsa $$ in other ways,

and hence the school's first class library ( hundreds of thousands of
volumes )

is called Knight Library. He hasn't forgotten sports, far from it,
obviously.

But he tries to see the overall picture, and that includes academics.

 

Majoring in a hard science and my guess is that the winds of educational
reform

that come and go in the overall curricula did not really effect you all that
much

while you were a student. But, take my word, in the liberal arts a lot has
happened

and even though a whole raft of experiments and bright ideas didn't make the
cut,

some innovations have done so, and if not everywhere at least in select
locations.

 

>From a computer business perspective, at least as I see it, the challenge
should be

to identify how products can be made use of in :

 

> field study contexts ( class trips out of state, or in situ study of a
community 

for sociology class or anthropology or political science, etc.

 

> group interaction. About this, consider an online course. What about
Eugene, to use

that example. Why couldn't a real world class be organized locally if I was
enrolled in 

say, a journalism course, or maybe television production ?   Maybe this
would not apply

if the class was in the philosophy of  the medieval era or advanced Buddhist
studies,

but for a pretty wide array of courses it ought to be entirely feasible. As
it is, Eugene

has about 20 meet-up groups, people who get together, in person,  based on

common interests, like nature hikes, like fascination with mystery fiction,
or in

Asian cooking.  The people meet each other thanks to a computer service 

provided locally, I think, by Parks and Recreation, which "publishes"

an electronic newsletter and sometimes offers computer tutorials. In other
words,

given desirability for people getting together, the idea would be use of
computers

to accomplish this goal.

 

> creative projects, which can be almost anything, from visual arts to
writing for TV.

 

I do comprehend the idea that online education can be good news in 100
different ways.

Its  just that if you are serious about re-thinking education it really is
imperative

to grasp the whole field, not just the computer part of it. Overall context
is

not some kind of luxury. And be open to at least

some well intended criticisms. 

 

Not every text innovation in computer text writing is such a hot idea, after
all, 

like embedding highlighted words in a serious article. I could give you
several

compelling reasons to abandon that kind of thing, mostly because it
repeatedly

breaks up the flow of reading for meaning, and also because far too often

a link via highlighted word takes you to trivia that is senseless to
include.

 

But, yeah, there are all kinds of multi-media opportunities in computer text

that no hard copy print book can replicate. As I hope you will see

in the near future. If I ever get this damned project finished,

which never seems to happen since as soon as I get one new "chapter"

under control I think of another subject that really needs attention

and hence fresh research, or revisions of past work, or creating

new visuals, etc.  But IF  this ever gets done you will see,

graphically, that I really do get the idea.

 

 

Billy

 

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