Understandable. Heck, I'd vote Libertarian as a protest vote if the circum stances were right viz both Dems and Reps had unacceptable candidates, my vote might help screw up the works for the political establishment, and the Libertarian candidate was among the more rational in the LP. But if I had a choice, all other things being equal, and despite the overt religiosity of the Constitution Party, it would get my vote. I am not reluctant to vote for a believer or a religious party if, anyway, we are talking about a good man or a good woman and the party is generally reasonable . As it is, the "secular parties" often are unreasonable and sometimes run unqualified people for office. I just don't think highly of the major parties. Understatement. Yes, the Reps , these days, are not as bad, but this is hardly a rave review. Your pick among mafia gangs, one isn't as evil as the other, but both are way far short of all good and benevolent. Every time I get worked up for a faction of Dems of Reps, the truth becomes clear, Blue Dogs or Tea Party, major problems become evident , soon enough. Sure, I don't expect perfection, but this is ridiculous. Billy =================================== 4/5/2012 10:14:21 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:
The Constitution Party has more of a religious flavor than even the Republicans. The problem with voting for the Constitution Party in Texas is that they aren't on the ballot. The Libertarians ARE. Unless you want to be royal pain in the @$$, write ins aren't really looked upon with favor in most counties. So I would probably vote Libertarian. The Greens are on the ballot, too, but really now???? I'd have to be stoned or drunk. David _ "Free speech is meant to protect unpopular speech. Popular speech, by definition, needs no protection."—Neal Boortz On 4/5/2012 11:16 AM, Chris Hahn wrote: Billy In situations like this in the past I have voted Libertarian. Why is the Constitution Party better? Chris From: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) [_mailto:[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) ] On Behalf Of [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 11:10 PM To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Cc: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Subject: Re: [RC] Spiritual Suicide If, God forbid, Romney is down by 7 or 8 % just prior to the election, I might vote Constitution Party. If it was close then I'd cast my vote for Mitt because it would count. But if he is likely to lose then I may as well help out the Constitution people. Obviously there are a number of disagreements I have with the Constitution Party, but it would be a meaningful protest vote. My approach, for what it is worth. But I don't have any serious objection to voting for a Mormon. Romney is not my first choice but it is damned rare when anything like my first choice is remotely in the cards. Billy 4/4/2012 9:57:30 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) writes: Well, my brother in law will not vote for a Mormon. He won't vote for Obama either, so I don't know what he is going to do. David "Free speech is meant to protect unpopular speech. Popular speech, by definition, needs no protection."—Neal Boortz On 4/4/2012 2:43 PM, [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) wrote: Poll: Evangelicals May Double Their Support for Obama in 2012 Election By _Napp Nazworth_ (http://www.christianpost.com/author/napp-nazworth/) , Christian Post Reporter April 4, 2012|2:40 pm In the 2012 presidential election, President _Barack Obama_ (http://www.christianpost.com/topics/barack-obama/) could double the amount of support he got from _evangelicals_ (http://www.christianpost.com/topics/evangelicals/) in the 2008 election, according to Barna Group, a Christian polling organization. In 2008, Obama received the support of about 11 percent of evangelicals, according to Barna Group. In a March 14-21 Barna Group poll of 647 likely voters, twice as many evangelicals, 22 percent, said they were prepared to vote for Obama. Barna categorizes "evangelical" more narrowly than most other polling organizations. Many polls simply include self-identifiers – those who say, when asked, that they are evangelical or born-again. Under Barna's classification, an evangelical is one who says they have made a personal commitment to Jesus Christ and that commitment remains important to them, and shares seven beliefs common among evangelicals, such as the existence of Satan and that eternal salvation comes through grace, not works. Using this measure of evangelical, Barna found that evangelicals comprise seven percent of the population and 10 percent of likely voters. Though Obama appears to be gaining the support of evangelicals, the enthusiasm levels of those supporters remain low. Only three to five percent of evangelicals said they would "definitely" vote for him, while 53-58 percent of evangelicals said they would "definitely" support the Republican challenger. Among religious skeptics, defined as atheists and agnostics, Obama receives strong support. Against Mitt Romney, the likely Republican nominee, Obama would likely receive the support of about 70 percent of this group if the election were held now. Religious skeptics would also comprise 11 percent of the electorate, about the same as evangelicals. Barna Group cautions, though, about reading too much into the results. The election is not until November and the Republican nominee has not been chosen. "Without the Republican candidate having been selected yet, and with three months of the major party candidates bashing each other after the upcoming party conventions, much could change before November 6. However, a few early indicators were flagged as factors to watch during the coming months," Barna Group writes. The poll's margin of error is plus or minus four percentage points. Christian author George Barna founded Barna Group and is currently working with the Newt Gingrich campaign. He sold his majority share of Barna Group in 2009 and is no longer involved in its operation. -- Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > Google Group: _http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism_ (http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism) Radical Centrism website and blog: _http://RadicalCentrism.org_ (http://radicalcentrism.org/) -- -- Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community <[email protected]> Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism Radical Centrism website and blog: http://RadicalCentrism.org
