I have two sisters who live in SF, and neither make anything like that  
amount.
One has a nice house that is worth several times that figure, which she  
originally 
purchased for somewhere around 50 K. Quite a while ago, of course.
She could have sold in 2006 or 2007 for better than 800 K
and, with luck more than that by a good number.
I pleaded with her, this is a bubble economy, sell now.
She would not listen and now the house is worth
about 200+ K less.
 
Ever hear of Cassandra ?  How I feel about it.
 
Billy
 
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4/27/2012 10:28:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected]  
writes:

The Green Platform in 2000 held to a limit of  $100,000 for gross income. 
How one could ever live in San Franfreako or LA  with that salary boggles the 
mind, but there might be a way. 

But I  doubt it. 

David

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definition,  needs no protection."—Neal  Boortz 



On 4/27/2012 3:58 PM,  [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])  wrote:  
Relevant History--
Obviously not all of this is consistent with RC. Some, in fact, is  
antithetical
to our core principles and values. The point is that we can  see 
in "Green people" trying to manage their own internal divisions, 
common problems in probably all political movements. Their attempted  way 
to resolve their differences may offer us some lessons. For now, as a  
relatively small group, we can proceed on the basis of the  give-and-take 
of online friendships. But what happens if RC "takes off" and there are  
hundreds or even thousands of Radical Centrists ?  
Worth thinking about.
 
Billy
 
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Synthesis/Regeneration 27   (Winter  2002)
 
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Thinking Politically 


Integrating the Green Political Spectrum within a Party  Organization 



by Allen Butcher, Denver Green Party   




All political organizations are comprised of an internal political  
spectrum, and the success of a particular party has much to do with how  this 
diversity within a political party is managed. The issue of how to  integrate 
left, center and right Greens is an opportunity for at least  our local and 
state Green Party organizations to develop in a way that  builds upon the 
strength of our diversity. If not addressed these  different Green perspectives 
could cause problems, as we’ve seen with  regard to the G/GPUSA vs. ASGP.  
So the question is how to use to our advantage this natural dynamic  of a 
political spectrum within the Green Party.  
A suggestion is to create committees within at least the local and  state 
Party organizations representing each of these three primary Green  
perspectives, and give them the autonomy to create projects and programs  
respecting 
their missions. At the same time, affirm that the Party  organization as a 
whole, through its bylaws and regular meetings, has  oversight and overrule 
authority, based on the right of any member to  appeal any committee 
decision. In this way, people with different Green  perspectives can work on 
issues 
of importance to them, and collaborate  as a whole when desired, welcoming 
people from other committees to work  on a particular committee”s project. 

 
____________________________________

The issue of how to integrate left,  center and right Greens is an 
opportunity for at least our local and  state Green Party organizations… 
 
____________________________________
In the Denver Green Party (DGP) we’ve created three committees called  “
managerships,” which are areas of responsibility created by the DGP  through 
its standard meeting process, with the work of the managerships  overseen by 
the co-presidents. Managerships may be managed by a single  person or by 
co-managers, with any member of the DGP having the power to  appeal any 
managerial decision to the co-presidents. If any member is  not satisfied with 
the 
decision of the co-presidents, they may then  appeal the decision at a 
scheduled DGP meeting using standard meeting  process. These managerships are:  
1. Coalition/Diversity Committee (Left Greens, Radical  Politics)—which 
will tend to hold onto radical interpretations of  Green values, with a more 
left/feminist/deep  ecology/socialist/anarchist leaning activist orientation 
2. Campaign  Committee (Centrist Greens, Electoral/Realistic Politics)—as it 
races  to the political center for mass appeal 3. Green Economy Committee or 
 GECo (Right Greens, Conservative Politics)—as it involves businesses,  
government regulation of the economy and taxation. 
Here are their job descriptions or committee mandates:  
1. Coalition/Diversity Committee:  
    *   Plan and maintain outreach programs including statements of  
support for minority and ethnic communities, intentional communities,  
neighborhood initiatives, and issues and causes consistent with the  Greens 10 
Key 
Values and the goals of the DGP;  
    *   Contact other organizations and solicit their support for  
candidates, initiatives and other campaigns endorsed by the DGP;  
    *   Provide networking services to nonprofit organizations affirming  
Green values, and for individuals looking for the resources provided  by 
these nonprofits.  
    *   Build a bio-regional awareness, identifying as closely as possible  
to local environmental quality. 
2. Campaign Committee:  
    *   Collect and make available to DGP members information on local and  
state electoral, initiative and other campaigns;  
    *   Recommend that the DGP support specific individuals for office,  
initiatives and other campaigns, according to criteria to be  determined;  
    *   Coordinate support for candidates and those active on initiatives  
formally endorsed by the DGP via standard meeting process;  
    *   Recommend that the DGP make statements of support for issues and  
campaigns other than those in the electoral or initiative process.  
3. Green Economy Committee:  
    *   Identify businesses that are willing to affirm support for the  
Greens” 10 Key Values, and network those as a Green chamber of  commerce, 
perhaps evolving into a 501(c)(6) business association  providing advertising, 
marketing, recruitment, finance, planning,  training or other services;  
    *   Support and sponsor consumer and worker cooperatives, worker-owned  
businesses and “open book management” involving employee stock  ownership, 
financial literacy and full disclosure;  
    *   Provide information on governmental agencies and programs serving  
individuals’ and businesses’ needs, and provide information on  grassroots 
lobbying and legislative activism supporting Green Values;  
    *   Advocate Green Tax Policy creating a system of public finance  
which maximizes incentives for the fair distribution of wealth,  environmental 
protection, basic needs production, provision of  adequate government 
services and peaceful resolution of territorial  conflicts. 
Green Commonwealth  
A way is needed to express a participatory form of self-governance, a  
concern for the general well-being, and a respect and appreciation for  
cultural 
diversity. The term that seems to do this best is  “commonwealth.” Not 
only does the term commonwealth refer to the public  good or a general 
prosperity through self-governance, it is also  scalable, referring to either a 
local community, a regional association  of communities such as a state, a 
national organization, or a network of  independent nations, on each level 
respecting a diversity of cultural  traditions. 

 
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The idea of the Green Commonwealth is to  affirm that all of these 
interests work together in a coherent  framework, through a committee 
structure… 
 
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Different people are motivated by different things. Some of us get  excited 
about electoral campaigns, others of us get excited about Native  American 
solidarity, union solidarity, gay rights, controlled substances  and 
industrial hemp, guns, worker-owned businesses and co-ops,  environmental 
issues, 
appropriate technology, nukes, Middle East peace,  anti-globalism, and on and 
on. The idea of the Green Commonwealth is to  affirm that all of these 
interests work together in a coherent  framework, through a committee structure 
providing ways for people who  want to do different things to focus upon 
what energizes them. A  diversity of opportunities for involvement brings more 
energy to the  Green Party, and the more we are doing in general the more 
all of our  committees, campaigns and projects will benefit.  
Think of it as a dynamic synergy. The more energy we bring in for a  
variety of projects the more energy will be available for all of our  projects, 
because most of us have more than one interest. As we see  respect and 
involvement on the part of others in the things that are of  interest to us 
individually, the more we individually will be willing to  help with other 
people”s 
concerns and projects, and the result will be a  cultural awareness that we 
may call a Green Commonwealth.  
The Statement Writing Process  
The process within a Green local requiring the three committees, to  work 
together is that anyone may propose a statement on any issue and  submit it 
to these three committees. With the Coali-tion/Diversity  Committee 
preferring a radical left orientation, the Campaign Committee  preferring a 
politically centrist orientation, and of course the Green  Economy Committee 
being 
the most conservative, the three work out a  compromise statement that all can 
support, and propose that to the  general monthly Greens meeting for 
official action. If a particular  committee fails to respond in a reasonable 
amount of time (like before  the next meeting), the issue may be taken directly 
to the general  meeting. Using email may aid the group writing process.  
This structure serves to facilitate work getting done in committees  before 
issues are presented at a full meeting, and helps to ensure that  each wing 
of the Green Party has a fair opportunity to see that their  agendas are 
represented and discussed with regard to particular issues.  At the same time, 
the process provides experience in working toward a  compromise of 
disparate views.  
If local and state organizations (at least) can develop a process for  
honoring and expressing radical, centrist and conservative Green views,  and 
gain practice in reconciling these, we will have a strong  organization that 
will be better able to carry us through future issues  and challenges. Such a 
process provides an official avenue for  encouraging and facilitating the 
open expression and discussion of  different opinions from the three wings of 
our party. Giving each  faction a recognized method of working together 
within the larger  organization may serve to ensure that people feel free to 
express and  are supported in expressing their views, and to ensure that people 
 respect and work with those having fundamentally different Green  
orientations.  
An example of the utility of this suggestion is how it would  facilitate 
progress on the issue presented at the Green Party of  Colorado meeting, 
spring 2001, having to do with whether we would be  willing to negotiate issues 
with the local Democratic Party, making  agreements to support some of their 
initiatives if they would support  some of ours (as I understand it). The 
meeting was split between  standing fast to our values of not making such 
political deals, versus  being willing to negotiate deals in the way that 
politics is generally  practiced. Issues such as this could be developed and 
reconciled by  people representing the radical and the centrist positions 
before 
going  for final decision by the Coordinating Committee or the general Green 
 Party of Colorado meeting.  
Community Control of Cultural, Political and Economic  Initiatives  
For a local Green organization to adopt the Green Commonwealth  designation 
it would therefore implicitly be accepting, and hopefully  explicitly 
affirming, two qualities. First, the ideology of “community  control,” via an 
organizational structure respecting a balance of  autonomy and responsibility 
through delegation of authority and appeal  processes, perhaps similar to 
those used in the Denver Green Party. And  second, work to create and 
integrate the activities of cultural,  electoral and economic committees, 
perhaps 
using the model of the Denver  Green Party’s Coalition/Diversity, Campaign and 
Green Economy  Committees. This may indeed be what Green Parties have 
always sought to  do; yet there is a need to express a model for affirming and  
perpetuating the original ideals of a Green movement.  
Change and growth on the local level may require a basic  organizational 
paradigm that does not represent an agenda of a national  organization, 
instead that provides a local Party design that can be  made relevant to and 
replicated by any local Green organization. Such a  relational paradigm 
integrating action in cultural, political and  economic spheres, while 
preserving a 
focus on the full range of Green  values through integrating them in one 
coherent concept, results in what  we may call the Green Commonwealth.  








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