The Daily Beast
 
Forget  Occupy—Let the Pentagon Run Wall Street
May  6, 2012 4:45 AM EDT  
 

A new book by a Navy commander turned financier  argues that the cure for 
the banking industry's ills isn't more regulation--it's  a commitment to 
military orthodoxy. By Ben Jacobs.


 
Jeffery Lay came all the way to Lower Manhattan  from his home in Ohio to 
express his anger toward Wall Street. But he  doesn’t want to "occupy" Wall 
Street; he wants the Pentagon to run it. Lay sat  down with The Daily Beast 
in the well-appointed mezzanine of the Trump Hotel in  SoHo to discuss his 
new book, _TOPGUN on Wall Street: Why the United States Military Should Run  
Corporate America_ 
(http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1593157177/thedaibea-20/) , and his 
concerns about the present state of the  banking system.
 
Lay is a former Navy lieutenant commander who spent nearly two decades  
flying F-14s as a highly decorated fighter pilot before retiring in 2000 to 
join  the financial industry. His experience, particularly at Neuberger Berman, 
a  subsidiary of Lehman Brothers, left him with a sense of disgust at the 
lack of  accountability in high  finance and corporate America. But the  
clean-cut Naval Academy grad hasn’t abandoned his profession. He is still in  
finance, doing wealth management for high net-worth individuals. And he hasn’t 
 become a raging leftist either—he named his daughter Reagan for a reason. 
But  his critiques of Wall Street and corporate culture put him in unlikely 
league  with the protesters formerly of Zuccotti Park.
 
 
Lay offers an alternate model for the financial world. He thinks it should  
run more like the military—not in the sense that stockbrokers should have  
immaculately polished shoes or that hostile takeovers should be accomplished 
 with heavy artillery. But it should operate with a certain sense of  
accountability, honor, and tradition. He is a Tory Capitalist.
 
In Lay’s eyes, working in the financial industry  should be “an honorable 
profession.” One filled with “good people who wake up  and say, 'What I can 
do to help people today?' ” He thinks that it needs to  embrace the 
military ideal of “service before self.” The message he preaches is  that “
sometimes it just isn’t worth it, you don’t have to make every single  trade, 
you 
don’t have to make every single investment, you don’t have to do  anything 
because preservation is more important than dissipation.” Instead, Lay  
urges the return to the institutional reverence that defined Wall Street in the 
 
days before investment banks were publically held. He isn’t concerned with  
whether the banks are publicly or privately traded, but he mourns the loss 
of  esprit de corps that once defined these firms. While the Navy still  
maintains the spirit of _John Paul Jones_ 
(http://www.history.navy.mil/bios/jones_jp.htm) , Lay sees Lehman Brothers's 
downfall as  springing from its 
abandonment of the desire to be an “organization built in the  image of Bobbie 
Lehman.”

 
Like many across the political spectrum, Lay shudders in disgust that Dick  
Fuld, the former chair of Lehman Brothers, hasn’t been held criminally  
responsible for his role in the meltdown. He rages at the memory of watching  
Lehman employees “walk out of the building at 745 7th Avenue, Lehman’s New 
York  headquarters] with their lives in boxes. Every person ... was probably 
a good  person and just shell-shocked. You know who else walked out of that 
building?  Dick Fuld. You know how much money he took away the year before 
that? A lot of  money. You know who still has a job today? Dick Fuld.” He 
wonders, “Where’s the  accountability in that?” 
 
Lay, however, is no fan of “Dodd-Frank solutions and all these types of  
regulation that come down.” In fact, he bristles at the more redistributive  
aspects of Occupy Wall Street. “If you’re good at what you do, then you 
deserve  to make a lot of money. This is capitalism; this isn’t some altruistic 
socialist  idea." He’s not concerned that those who perform well might 
receive excessive  rewards—he’s fine with that.

 
 
Instead, Lay embraces a more conservative, and perhaps even somewhat  
paternalistic mindset, that an employer should take a certain fiduciary  
responsibility for its employees. He sees the necessity for CEOs to feel  
responsible “not just to the shareholders but the stakeholders” as well. After  
all, 
in the military “you have to ... look out for those junior to you and not  
put them in harm’s way.” Lay goes on to note, “If you make rancidly bad  
decisions, you get held to account. You don’t just walk out the door with a  
monster severance
 
 
It's this final point that focuses the grievance Lay shares with the  
Occupiers. When he examines corporate actions, he asks, “Who does that really  
serve? Is it serving the long-term interests of every stakeholder, or is it  
serving the long- or the short-term interests of a limited number of  
stakeholders, which may be the board or the senior executives?” The  difference 
is 
that Lay’s solution resides not in a idealistic future but the  solidity of 
the past. 
 
As Lay says, “Service before self is really what the military has become  
about. The idea that I’m not here for me, I’m a servant of others. That cuts 
to  the cloth of leadership.” He thinks the corporate world needs to adopt 
that  model, too.

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