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Andrew Sullivan and Charles Johnson????

Linking Andrew Sullivan and Glenn Reynolds? PLEASE. And Sullivan a libertarian?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sullivan lets his sexual orientation (GAY) drive everything. He would be with the Social Libertarians on Gay Marriage. AND THAT'S ALL. He's an Obamabot, not a Libertarian.

The Trig-Truther Sullivan and the Stalinesque blog host Johnson??? I got booted from Johnson's site for asking a simple question that annoyed King Charles. Also for commenting on Protein Wisdom, wondering about the sanity level over there. THOU SHALT NOT CRITICIZE KING CHARLES, EITHER OH HIS SITE OR ELSEWHERE. SEIG HEIL!!! Sir Sullivan is sure that Trig Palin is Bristol Palin's child not Sarah Palin. For a gay man to show such interest in the output of a female's womb is hilarious. And I must have missed when he got his Ob/Gyn shingle.

If you want to claim those jackasses, I may have to part company.

SERIOUSLY.

David
 
"The principal villain in rising health care costs is the government.  Not pharmaceutical companies, not doctors,  but government."--Neal Boortz

On 10/14/2012 10:29 AM, [email protected] wrote:
10/14/2012
 
 
Comments on :   Top 25 Centrist Columnists
 
Centroids :
This is old news but I have only found out about it today.  The John Avlon article
is followed by a list as such, plus a critique at mypostingcareer.com.
 
Avlon, without mentioning names, stated that several of the pundits on his
list consider themselves to be "Radical Centrists."
 
Personally I don't think there are any "pure" RC columnists --although once in a while
a non-RC columnist will write an article that embodies Radical Centrist principles.
Avlon, himself, claims to be a Radical Centrist, but some days you would
never know it since he habitually comes down on the side of the  Clinton
wing of the Democratic Party.
 
There are, of course, a number of people on the Web who use the phrase
"Radical Centrist"  to describe themselves but who are not really any such thing.
For example the site of a one-time participant at RC.org --

Radical Centrist

radical-centrist.blogspot.com/Cached - Similar May 14, 2009 – Radical Centrist. A Libertarian tries to sell freedom to a population almost completely convinced of it's own impotence and incompetence, and ...
 
 
 
Then there was :

The Radical Centrist

www.theradicalcentrist.com
 
He seems to have shelved RC since his blog was based on Gov Schwarzenegger
and with the end of the Governator's political career the blog became moot.
 
 
 
We should also mention :
 

Edward L. Glaeser: A Time for Radical Centrists - NYTimes.com

economix.blogs.nytimes.com/.../time-for-the-radical-centrists-to-step-...Cached
Apr 26, 2011
 
 
 

radical centrist - Arkansas Times

Long-time fan of the Arkansas Times - and the Union Station Times before that
 
 
 

Radical Centrist | Facebook

www.facebook.com/pages/Radical-Centrist/155605211152880Cached
Radical Centrist | Facebook. ... Like. Political Ideology. Want to like this page? To interact with Radical Centrist you need to sign up for Facebook first. Sign Up ...
 
 

How to Avoid Becoming China's Bitch: A Radical Centrist Manifesto ...

changethis.com/manifesto/show/93.03.BecomingChinasBitchCached
Apr 11, 2012 – Where do I get off using a title like that? Because the time has come to get you out of your comfort zone. In fact, it's well past time for all of us.
 
 

A radical centrist on globalism & trade | From his outpost in Seattle ...

blog.seattlepi.com/globalism/Cached
Sep 18, 2007 – From his outpost in Seattle, Bill Center, a self-described "radical centrist" explores the challenges of globalization and trade in search of real ...
 
 
And, of course, while there has been nothing new from him for a while,
Mark Satin.  Same for Ted  Halstead and Michael Lind.
 
 
 
Regardless, Avlon's list is worth thinking about .
Three from his list who do, at least on occasion, write RC-like columns are :
David Brooks
Thomas Friedman
Matt Miller
 
Maybe you can think of others. It might be useful to compile our own list
of "part-time" Radical Centrist columnists.
 
 
Billy
 
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The Daily Beast

The Top 25 Centrist Columnists and Commentators

Following Tunku Varadarajan's list of the top pundits of both the left and the right, The Daily Beast's John Avlon provides his take on the most influential voices of the American center.

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Professional partisans present a vision of American politics where everything is divided between the far left and the far right. Lately, they seem to be dominating the nation’s political debate.

But there's a powerful backlash brewing—a movement of voices from the vital center who are declaring their independence from play-to-the-base politics.

Just as independent voters are now the largest and fastest-growing segment of the electorate— 42 percent, according to the most recent CBS/New York Times poll—an increasing number of centrist columnists and commentators are rejecting the ideological straitjacket and extremists on both sides.

Click Top 25 Centrist Columnists and Commentators

[ could not locate anywhere -BR comment ]

 
 

The nation’s most widely syndicated columnist, Kathleen Parker, recently declared her independencein a column that said “it’s time to denounce the harsh partisans who feed on polarization. It’s time to give independents a voice.”

Parker followed in the steps of radio host Michael Smerconish, who wrote a February column for the Philadelphia Inquirer on his decision to register independent after 30 years in the GOP. In December 2009, Andrew Sullivan eloquently announced his official break from the right— his column echoed the author of the LittleGreenFootballs blog, Charles Johnson, who had risen to prominence as a committed anti-jihadist— a cause he still continues to fight. “I used to get some pretty nasty hate mail from radical Islamists,” he told me, “but the stuff I’m getting right now from right wingers is an order of magnitude worse.” At the same time, centrist Democrats find themselves embattled and attacked by an emboldened liberal netroots culture.

These voices have been coming to the same conclusions individually—that the parties are too controlled by their most strident, uncivil, and extreme elements. Like most voters in the vital center, there is a coherence to their beliefs—a consistent advocacy of fiscal responsibility and individual freedom which leads most to be closer to the GOP on economic issues and closer to the Democrats on social issues.

Some might call themselves libertarians, others radical centrists, moderates or independents—but the underlying ideas are the same. They have refused to surrender their conscience or common sense to walk in lockstep with one political party. Theirs is a rebellion from the pressures to conform in today’s hyperpartisan debates.

In March, The Daily Beast’s Tunku Varadarajan developed lists of the most prominent journalists from the right and left. His lists enumerated the rise of ideological advocacy journalism in print and online, including television and radio-show hosts who often function as the two parties’ attack-dogs and apologists. These divisions are often encouraged by newspapers and networks in an attempt to appeal to narrow but intense niche audiences.

This list is intended to fill out the full spectrum of political debate, spanning the center-right and the center-left. It was developed with certain criteria in mind: the individual’s civility or sense of humor when engaging in political debates; their pragmatic approach to problem-solving; their principled independence from partisanship and willingness to criticize the extremes on both sides of the aisle; and finally, their prominence in the arena.

Those invested in the right/left, red state/blue state divide of American politics do their best to deny the existence of the center in American politics while simultaneously launching party purity purges. Individuals on the center-right are cast out and called “squishes” by conservatives who are turning their political faith into something resembling a cult. Likewise, on the left, centrists are increasingly attacked as "corporatists” because of their commitment to fiscal responsibility and belief that thriving private industry is the backbone of the American economy. These ideas are enforced by a relatively small number of self-appointed sentinels in defense of a declining orthodoxy—a Pew poll from last year found that only 15 percent of Americans call themselves conservative Republicans while just 11 percent describe themselves as liberal Democrats.

In fact, the center does not only have the numbers, it has intellectual coherence and strong advocates. There are academics like the Hoover Institution’s Morris Fiorina, author of Culture War? The Myth of a Polarized America and McGill’s Gil Troy, author of Leading From the Center. There are centrist think tanks, like Will Marshall’s Progressive Policy Institute and The Third Way associated with the Democratic side of the aisle and the Main Street Partnership for the GOP. There are centrist radio-show hosts like Michael Smerconish, Ronn Owens, and Alan Nathan. There are centrist Web sites like TheModerateVoice.com, Donklephant.com and BookerRising.net—as well as aggregators like Fark.com that skewer absurdities on both sides. Most important are the grassroots groups that are growing up on their own, like the Village Square movement based out of Florida, the Transpartisan Alliance, or the newly formed Pragmatic Center, which announced its presence in the wake of Kathleen Parker’s column.

The purpose of this list is to show that there is a coherent and strong centrist movement growing in America right now. It is principled and civil. It is independent of the two parties’ influential, entrenched special interests. And it is on the rise.

Taken together, this list should be a reminder that American politics was not always seen as a high-pitched battle between the far left and the far right. A century ago, a more reasoned analysis divided American politics into three currents: radicals, reactionaries, and progressives. Radicals wanted radical change. Reactionaries wanted no change. Turn-of-the-century progressives like Teddy Roosevelt wanted moderate change—reform, not revolution. They are the centrists of today—people who want America to move not left or right, but forward.

Take a look at the list and let the debate begin…

 

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The Top 25 Media Whores - The political asylum - My Posting Career

mypostingcareer.com › ... › Serious Business › The political asylumCached
Apr 6, 2010 – ... calling it The Top 25 Centrist Columnists and Commentators (linked ... and political independents, was probably enough to get her on this list
 
 
 
[ The list is not complete, others are mentioned in Avlon article ]
 
 
 
Kathleen Parker

Kathleen is your average conservative commentator - nary an original thought or idea has fallen from her mouth or found its way into her columns for years. Well, actually, there was that one time she said "...Palin didn't make a mess cracking the glass ceiling. She simply glided through it." That was kind of funny -- and that, along with some recent favorable remarks directed towards tea partiers and political independents, was probably enough to get her on this list.

David Brooks

Neocon extraordinaire-turned-Obama enthusiast. Turns out the Democrats aren't nearly as averse to global military policing and alienating the working class as he thought they were, so he switched camps. Hooray for 'centrism'!

Michael Smerconish

'Conservative' talk radio host who wants Republicans to stop being so picky about abortion and gay marriage. Another moron who thinks that social traditionalism is what is really holding back GOP success (despite all evidence to the contrary).

Matt Miller

We can have all the benefits of a welfare state -- without exorbitant government spending! Miller's retch-inducing neo-liberal optimism makes George Soros look like Oswald Spengler. Oh, and he supports the Iraq War.

David Frum

Another Jewish neocon who soured on the Republican party after it started to go goy on him. Like Brooks, his welfare-warfare platform found a surprisingly warm reception in the Obama administration, so another 'centrist' is born.

One of the smartest people in politics on either side of the aisle, Frum is a committed conservative but a principled patriot first.

Read: social and cultural issues come last -- war is the only thing that matters.

Irshad Manji

Dykish-looking Muslim feminist recruited by Canadian liberals as a living advertisement for Western-led 'reform' in the Middle East. Her book The Trouble with Islam is the Muslim equivalent of Bishop Spong's A New Christianity for a New World -- another screed on why religions should jettison long-standing moral attitudes in the name of egalitarian freedom. Neocons may also find her useful, too -- first we bomb their houses, then we send in brown Gloria Steinems to dissolve their families.
[ She is a female homosexual who seems to think that the Koran's condemnations of
homosexuality somehow are optional and can be disregarded; NOT the view of any
Moslem true-believers that I have ever heard of. BR comment ]

Jon Stewart

Stewart's patended brand of smug, pseudo-journalistic comedy is among one of the many reasons why I no longer bother watching television. Apparently, a few token attacks on fellow liberal blowhard Keith Olbermann were enough to merit him the centrist crown.

Joe Scarborough

Token MSNBC 'conservative' who was vetted for any controversial or thought-provoking opinions before his placement as the host of the Morning Joe program. Ignore.

Andrew Sullivan

With Glenn Reynolds, the leader of the libertarian blog community. Left the Republican party because it made him uncomfortable in his embrace of the buttsex lifestyle. Famous for fondling his own ass on national television.

Ron Brownstein

Ho-hum political analyst whose columns share a chief focus on party fortunes. Unlikely to inspire any emotions, good or bad, on either side of the party aisle.

Mark McKinnon

But he announced in advance that if Barack Obama won the Democratic nomination, he would ride off into the sunset rather than participate in the negative attacks he knew would be required.

All you need to know, really.

David Gergen

Slimy, Rockefeller-type Bohemian Grove veteran whose complete absence of principle carried him unnoticed through the Nixon, Ford, and Kennedy administrations. A bureaucrat-for-life if there ever was one.

Harold Ford, Jr.

Schizophrenic blue dog Democrat who is pro-life but supportive of stem-cell research, fond of the Iraq War but anti-death penalty, and a 'fiscal conservative' who supports universal healthcare legislation.

Charles Johnson

Libertarian jazz guitarist-cum-blogger who leads Israel's online amen corner; Jewish turban-hunter known for his hysterical anti-Islamic fear-mongering, but despises gentile anti-Islamic groups like Vlaams Belaang because they set off his Shoah-meter.

Doug Schoen

No idea who this is, really. Maybe he makes a living as a professional Dick Cheney impersonator?

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Peggy Noonan

The only worthwhile writer in the entire list.

Thomas Friedman -

The baron of banality. The king of commonplaces. The master of mixed metaphors.

Give a blackberry-addicted high school guidance counselor column space in the New York Times and you'll end up with someone like Thomas Friedman. His barely-contained enthusiasm for rootless globalism, and the techno-goodies it brings us (at low, low prices!, he reminds us) would be despicable in itself, but coupled with his naive belief in education-as-panacea and his gushing, 'gee willikers!' exposition Friedman easily outranks even David Brooks as the worst of the lot.

David Broder

Professional pundit with frequent appearances on shows like Meet the Press. A drooling admirer of Palin, whom he praised as cool as a cucumber, comfortable with her talking points and unrattled by anything that was thrown at her.
[ now deceased ;  alas, mostly measly mouthed and gutless  --BR comment ]

Joe Klein

Author of Primary Colors, a political drama about Clinton's 1992 Democratic campaign. Like most of the others listed, he's another fiscally conservative social liberal, but he gets brownie points for questioning conservatives on their ambition to '... [use] U.S. military power, U.S. lives and money, to make the world safe for Israel".

Christopher Buckley

Son of the titan of intellectual conservatism, William F. Buckley; like Frankie Schaeffer, living in daddy's shadow has pushed him into an embrace of the left, although it's good to know that (like nearly everyone else on the list) he "clings tenaciously to the idea that one ought to have balanced budgets".

Robert Guest

Another 'fiscally conservative, socially liberal' media nobody. This one writes for The Economist.

Jonathan Capehart

Otherwise unimportant black intellectual that is mentioned solely because he completes The Daily Beast's racial quota for this otherwise overwhelmingly pale (and Jewish) roster of pundits.

Joe Gandelman

Who? Apparently, another tweeting blog junkie who thinks moderation qua moderation is, like, the best thing EVER. This one runs a blog called The Moderate Voice.

Ronn Owens

From his book Voice of Reason: Why Both Right and Left Are Wrong:

..while I tend to be liberal when it comes to social issues, I'm far more conservative on foreign affairs.

See a pattern here, yet? He's a neocon radio jockey who scorns Limbaugh not because (as he claims) he is too 'far right', but because he's his major competitor. His rear book cover also features accolades from Joe Lieberman, Chris Matthews, and John McCain. Barf.

Patricia Murphy

Inoffensive columnist who seems to mostly cover political trivia and "This Week in Politics"-style briefs.

 

 

 

 

 

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