This is ridiculous  --and it isn't made less absurd by the  fact
that both Left and Right are equally snookered by some sort
of opinion-driven paradigm. As if public opinion necessarily
must be the arbiter of truth. News flash, the public is often  WRONG.  
And the public often is wrong because the public is misinformed by 
the media and, in any case, may be uninterested in truth for its own sake 
because of consumer-centric interests.
.
The issue of homosexuality will NOT be decided by public opinion  polls.
But while it is true that Evangelicals --for the most part--  have the 
right idea,  they are :
( 1 ) ridiculously misinformed about just how extensively the Bible
condemns homosexuality,  and for what reasons, and 
( 2 ) hopelessly unwilling to use the Bible as a guide for  research
priorities so that the empirical evidence of just how dysfunctional
and mentally sick homosexuality actually is can be identified
and publicized.
.
As a result the Evangelical case is getting stomped  -- all over  the place.
And Evangelicals are  starting to retreat. But what do you  expect
when Evangelicals often agree that "only a few" passages in the Bible
condemn homosexuality ?  This is flat out wrong unless you  think
that 25 passages is only a "few," and are clueless about the
actual research results available about homosexuality,
which are close to 180 degrees the opposite of
what homosexuals and their supporters claim.
.
All of this is disgusting beyond belief.
.
Billy
.
.
.
 
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Jan  17, 2013 02:04 AM ESTTheWashingtonPost  
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/guest-voices/post/christianity-after-louie-giglio/2013/01/16/3c901e02-
6047-11e2-9940-6fc488f3fecd_blog.html#license-3c901e02-6047-11e2-9940-6fc488
f3fecd)  
Christianity after Louie  Giglio
By _Becky Garrison_ 
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/becky-garrison/2011/07/19/gIQAxFgJOI_page.html) 

 
Upon initial glance, the Rev. Louie Giglio presents himself as a  
compassionate evangelical conservative with a ministry focusing on doing good  
not 
damning others. He isn’t calling for a day of prayer to save American from  
the evils brought forth by the _Obama administration in the spirit of Governor 
 Mike Huckabee_ 
(http://www.generals.org/news/single-view/article/gov-huckabee-calls-for-a-day-of-prayer/)
 . Nor is he hosting a presidential inaugural 
prayer breakfast  that bills itself as a non-partisan inter-denominational 
event even though the_ lineup reads like a who’s who of the religious 
right._ (http://www.pipb2013.com/press-release-and-requests.html)  And  no sane 
Christian would participate in Terry Jones’ pre-inauguration_ burning of 
effigies and images of President  Obama._ 
(http://www.standupamericanow.org/press-release/2012/11/press-release-update-terry-jones-nationwide-burning-of-effig
ies-and-images-of-)   
But what these individuals share  in common is their base their belief that 
“homosexuality is a sin” in large part  by citing select Bible verses that 
theologian_ James Allison deems the “clobber texts.”_ 
(http://jamesalison.co.uk/)   This method of biblical analysis could be found 
in previous eras 
when similarly  minded church leaders used a very small smattering of Bible 
verses to condemn  women and people of color as inferior beings. Now, anyone 
who espouses such  outdated thinking gets called out on the carpet, and 
rightly so. 
According to a _Washington Post poll_ 
(http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-01-10/local/36272362_1_legal-gay-marriage-gay-activists-gay-rights)
 , 
between 2006 and 2012,  the percentage of all Americans who support same-sex 
marriage has climbed from  36 to 53 percent. Along those lines, megachurch 
pastor _Rick Warren delivered the invocation in 2009 despite his  public views 
against gay rights,_ (http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-4685478.html)  
and President Obama did not support  marriage equality publicly until the_ 
closing months of his re-election campaign_ 
(http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2012/05/10/obama-supports-same-sex-marriage) .  
Following Obama’s re-election 
and the growing support for marriage equality,  religious conservative 
stalwarts like _Dr. James Dobson admit they are losing the  battle_ 
(http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2011/05/focus-family-weve-lost-gay-marriage)  
on this 
issue especially among young evangelicals.  
Ross Murray, Director of  Religion, Faith & Values for GLAAD, _reflects on 
this cultural shifting: _ (http://www.glaad.org/)  
“I had hoped that Pastor Giglio was able to “evolve” much like our  
president did on the issue of LGBT equality. From reading in between the lines  
of 
his recent statements, that is not the case. He found that his main issue 
was  elsewhere, working to end human trafficking. That’s an issue I can 
support. I  think it is to his credit to not stake his ministry off of opposing 
LGBT people,  but to do something that helps society. And I continue to hope 
that he will  listen and learn from LGBT people and eventually come to the 
understanding that  we are all children of God.”  
Furthermore, this fracas  signifies a trend in progressive evangelical 
circles where leaders like _Giglio_ 
(http://www.talk2action.org/story/2013/1/11/14921/7815) , _Warren_ 
(http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2009/01/07/the-truth-about-rick-warren-in-africa.html)
 , and Jason Russell, co-founder of  
Invisible Children and producer of the _KONY 2012 video sensation]_ 
(http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2012/03/23165/) , champion civil rights in  
Africa while forming alliances with clergy working against LGBT rights in  
African countries. Similarly, Sojourners President Jim Wallis cites a document  
signed by 46 religious leaders that condemns persecution against LGBT people 
in  Uganda but fails to denounce their teachings that fuel this anti-gay 
violence.  Also, evangelist Tony Campolo compares the theology of his _Red 
Letter Christian (RLC) group _ 
(http://sojo.net/blogs/2011/06/10/my-response-sojourners-article-about-family) 
with that  of the Family, host of the _National 
Prayer Breakfast _ 
(http://onfaith.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/panelists/Becky_Garrison/2011/02/would_jesus_attend_the_national_prayer_breakfast.html)
 
even though  religion scholar Jeff Sharlet’s research connects the Family to 
the “Kill the  Gays” bill in _Uganda_ 
(http://msnbc.msn.com/id/34783946/ns/msnbc-rachel_maddow_show/t/uganda-be-kidding-me/)
 .  
Therein lies the elephant in the  room -the one that needs to be taken out 
of the closet. In mainline and more  liberal religious settings, one finds 
the rise of an ecclesiology that embraces  LGBT people in all aspects of the 
church’s rites including ordination and  marriage. Central to this 
development is a refutation of “homosexuality” as a  “sin” and an embrace of a 
more 
incarnational theology that views all of humanity  as created good in the 
image of God. This worldview embraces the myriad of  discoveries from 
_science_ (http://www.soulforce.org/pdf/whatthesciencesays.pdf) , _psychology_ 
(http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation.aspx) , _theology_ 
(https://www.churchpublishing.org/products/index.cfm?fuseaction=productDetail&productID=
8604) , and other disciplines that inform  changing attitudes toward LGBT 
people. 
Hopefully, the media can stop presenting evangelicals voices as the sole  
representatives of Christianity because the reality of the faith at the  
grassroots level proves to be much more multifaceted.

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