Kindred Spirit
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Centroids :
Here is an essay about Radical Centrism that is clearly in our  spirit--
if not always, some of the time, and at some important times. It has 
real "bite," a Menckenesque attitude, and a sense of purpose.
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This said, there are problems which will be discussed at the  appropriate
places in the text. For now, though, here are the first four  paragraphs
verbatim.  Problems don't start until the end of Paragraph # 4.
 
 
 
 
What does “Radical Centrist”  mean?
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>From the site :    radicalcenterist.wordpress.com
Note the spelling, "centerist," not centrist, in the  title.
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Posted on _May 21, 2011_ 
(http://radicalcenterist.wordpress.com/2011/05/21/what-does-radical-centrist-mean/)
  by _teqmc2_ 
(http://radicalcenterist.wordpress.com/author/teqmc2/) 
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The purpose of my blog is to push a certain political agenda. There is no  
such
thing as a political blog that does not push any agenda. In fact, the title 
 of my blog  
says what that agenda is. Radical Centrist. So, what does that  title mean, 
and  what does it say  about my agenda ?
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To begin with, I would like point out that I have already found criticism  
of my blog
online. That makes me REALLY HAPPY. Criticism is the FOUNDATION of 
democracy, and of America. I am very deeply a patriot, and I feel that  
there is 
NOTHING more patriotic than criticizing politics. It makes me quite  proud
to realize how much patriotism I have inspired.
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However, the particular criticism that I read made a few mistakes. They  
cited me
as an example of  “aggressively moderate”. This is quite wrong. There  is 
NOTHING
moderate about my blog. That is why the title is “Radical ……” Moderate is 
 the 
opposite of Radical, but does not specify an agenda.
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A radical believes that anyone who disagrees with them is causing great  
harm to
something important JUST BY EXISTING. I most certainly feel that anyone  who
disagrees with the political agenda of this blog is a TRAITOR to their  
nation 
and should DIE. Or change their opinion. That is the center of  radicalism 
:  
a  desire to enforce the choice between conformity or death.
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Comments :
Everything was gong along really nicely until the last sentence. We have no 
 interest
in enforcing conformity. On the contrary, we seek to  persuade  people  so 
that,
on any issue about which we desire commitment to some universal  ethical 
principle,
others will change their outlooks or behavior based on their own inner  
motivation.
There is a world of difference between forcing others to conform, and  
persuasion.
The former is authoritarian, the latter is democratic.
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To return to the essay, here are additional quotes--
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"A centrist is a person who does not believe that they are qualified to  
suggest changes
to the system." The author then goes on to say that this is true of  
himself.
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Whatever is true for _teqmc2_ 
(http://radicalcenterist.wordpress.com/author/teqmc2/) , this  does not 
establish a general principle for others.
In point of fact, some centrists do think they  are qualified to recommend 
changes
to the political system. Others do not. There is  no consensus, in other 
words.
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The writer then says that centrists  --and anyone else--  can  become 
qualified
to suggest changes. Which is true. This, after all, is the whole point of  
education,
including self education.
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This part of the essay begs the question,  just when do you know you  have
become qualified to express your informed desires ?  There is no way  to 
tell
based on the essay alone. But  this problem can be overlooked because  of
what comes next, a remarkable turnaround even if it is based on a  dubious
premise  --some other valid premise can be substituted easily  enough.
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Here is the dubious premise :
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"So, how does radicalism interact with centrism? I believe that anyone who  
thinks 
that they are qualified to suggest changes to the system is a DANGER to our 
 country, 
and must be stopped, before they cause widespread harm."
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This is off the mark ;   it also attacks the  rights of people to free 
expression
and testing their views in the  marketplace of ideas. None of us here agrees
with that kind of outlook.  Another premise is needed. But even  without it
what the writer says next is hardly debatable as we see things  :
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"So, in one sentence the political agenda of this blog is to convince  
people 
of how ignorant they are. It is also to correct that ignorance."
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This is axiomatic to Radical Centrism as we understand it.  As is the  
following
statement from the blog :
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"The goal of this blog is to educate readers until they understand the  
extent 
of their own ignorance."
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Very Socratic. Well said, and consistent with our own views. The  writer's
insistence that he should, as policy, end all essays with a  question, goes
too far, but there is no difficulty in understanding his  well-taken 
motivation.
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Next the author defines Radical Centrist by comparison to its  opposites.
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"I am NOT a moderate. A moderate is a person who holds some agenda, 
but is willing to admit that those who disagree with that agenda  might be 
correct."
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This, of course, would define "centrist" as no different than  dogmatist  
--even if
that was not his intention.  Anyway, all kinds of people are willing  to 
concede
that others just might be right about some issue even if,  for now, it  
surely seems
as if they are dead wrong. Centrists certainly can have this attitude and  
often do.
This is also true for Radical Centrists  --who are very different than  
"centrists" per se.
No idea at all why _teqmc2_ 
(http://radicalcenterist.wordpress.com/author/teqmc2/)  has  the outlook here 
that he does.
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Now we get to a very curious paragraph that should be quoted in full  :
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" My agenda is “you should learn more” and anyone who disagrees with that  
MUST, 
by definition, believe “I already know enough” or worse “People should be  
more 
ignorant” If you do not believe either of these latter two, then you agree  
with me. 
If you disagree, then you are a detriment to your country, and you should  
convert 
or die. If you believe ignorance is a good thing, get out. Go die. "
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My best interpretation of these words is that they were  largely written 
for effect.
If that is the case,  then serious objections would miss the point.  
Another interpretation
is that the writer was seriously trying to compose a  paradoxical 
philosophical
statement that conceals a truth that cannot be expressed some other  way.
If so, he dove off the deep end of the pool without a life  preserver.
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An agenda of  "you should learn more" is excellent  ;   it is intrinsic to 
RC as
we have developed its principles. It assumes that all of us should learn  
more,
however, because it is logically open-ended. There is no need to think that 
 it 
sets anyone up as knowing everything ;   it  simply says that we never have 
all of
the knowledge we could use and also says that the more knowledge we  are
able to gain, the better. Unfortunately the writer leapt to some  
unwarranted
conclusions in that paragraph.
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Here is the start of  next paragraph :
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" There is another definition of centrist :    someone who advocates a set 
of policies 
which lie somewhere between two other, mutually opposing positions. I do  
not 
advocate any specific policy on this blog (or, at least, I try not to). I  
do, in fact, 
hold some opinions of things that I think we should do. Everyone can think  
of 
many things which they want to change away from. Most people can only 
think of a few things which they want to change to."
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No problem with this. But the rest of the paragraph is another  matter--
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" I feel that the latter form of the ‘pretense of knowledge’ is less  
dangerous, but it is 
still FAR less good than simply having questions. In my personal politics,  
I am not 
this latter type of centrist. I am most decidedly a liberal."
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Again, there is a question of empirical validity. Is changing to a new  
policy less
dangerous than abandoning a failed policy ?  The most anyone can say  is 
"maybe."
But "maybe not" is just as true, especially since new alternatives to  
failed policies 
sometimes are total disasters. The Czarist regime in Russia in 1917 was a  
mess
but the Communist system that eventually replaced it was far worse. And you 
 can 
say pretty much the same things for the rise of the Nazis, the rise of  
genocidal
fanaticism in Rwanda, or even ( take your pick ) the elections of  George 
Bush
or Barack Obama. These are not equivalents, needless to say, simply  
examples 
of going from bad to worse because of perceived good choice
in going to a new politics..
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The author's 'philosophical principle' doesn't hold. At least it does if I  
have
understood what he was saying.
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That he is a self-identified "liberal "is not a problem  ;  been there, 
done that.
In ways I remain liberal.  Its just that the kind of "Liberalism"  that I 
identify with
has almost nothing in common with the anti-liberalism that calls  itself
"progressivism," which is normative on the American Left today.
At any rate, there is common viewpoint with Radical Centrism as 
we understand it, in the author's next statement of principle  :
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" This is NOT my platform to push a liberal agenda. This is my platform to 
push an agenda of  “Learn more”.
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That, as much as anything, is at the center of Radical Centrism.
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Not only that, there is this, immediately following  :
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" When I am getting ready to write a post for this blog, I like to do a lot 
 of research, 
at least if it is a post about the functioning of some part of the system.  
The more 
research I do, the more I question my liberalism. It is not the perfect  
solution. 
Conservatism creates some problems that liberalism fixes, and liberalism  
creates 
some problems which conservatism fixes. I have always been familiar with 
the first set of problems, but now I am becoming familiar with the second.  
"
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This is exactly how we do things, maybe not always, but as our  ideal.
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The last sentence of the essay says :
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" So, that is the meaning of this blog. I do hope that you all will stay  
with me 
on this wild ride while we explore the extent of our own ignorance  
together."
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No argument ;   not in the least.  Can't  say it applies to all issues, all 
of the time,
but as a generalized viewpoint, or attitude, it is our perspective.
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Which brings us back to the beginning.  Very feisty and  spirited.  I'd 
just put it
a little differently--
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The purpose of Radical Centrism is to express strong ideas in the most  
effective
ways possible.  We are really thankful when others engage us in  discussions
or well-intentioned and well-informed debate. Criticism is  foundational
to finding truth and creating solid alternatives to dysfunctional  political
or cultural systems, and we welcome it. Not only that, we strive to  be
self-critical in a constructive sense.
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We also are patriots although each of us takes serious interest in at least 
 some
foreign nations that have personal meaning. If there are good things  about
America that we can share with these nations, that is something we  want
to see happen   --just as, if there are good things to learn  from  those 
nations,
that is also for the best for all concerned.
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There is very little about us as Radical Centrists that is  "moderate."
True enough, we may sometimes use the word "moderate" as shorthand  for
centrist, or to indicate an informed neutral viewpoint.  However,  we are 
anything but garden variety moderates.  To repeat  :   We take strong 
stands.
We can compromise when it is smart to do so, but we are not  interested
in compromise except when there is no good alternative. And most of
the  time there is a radical alternative if you look for it.
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Don't take this too literally, but, for one, I like the way that _teqmc2_ 
(http://radicalcenterist.wordpress.com/author/teqmc2/)  put  things :
If you are unable to see the truth in Radical  Centrist views you are 
causing
great harm to society, yourself, and the nation.  Those who are unable to 
understand and  appreciate Radical Centrist ideas are not very smart, or 
are just plain stupid.   If you  disagree with our core principles you 
clearly 
are unenlightened, ill-informed, and a very bad person deserving DEATH.
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OK, this is over the top, but to communicate a  commitment to a philosophy
that is very important to each of us. We really  mean what we say, we really
believe in our philosophy,  and we would  like to convince others that
Radical Centrism is superior to anything  else "on the market," 
anything and everything.
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Look into Radical Centrism  ;  really think about our core principles. See 
how
Radical Centrist values are for the good   --in many different ways. Join 
us.  
Radical Centrism is not  another philosophy based on yesterday's  bromides ;
it is a dynamic set of  new ideas that speak directly to the principles and 
 values
if independent-minded people  and Independent voters.
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Billy R.
February 8, 2013
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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