PBS
 
Bill Moyers Journal
 
Transcript :

November 7, 2008

 
BILL MOYERS: There is this argument going on among commentators in the  
"punditocracy". I mean, the right wingers saying this is still a country that 
is  center right. And Jon Meacham, the editor of "Newsweek" told Charlie Rose 
the  other night this is a center right country and progressives had better 
 understand that. On the other hand, on the other side, you've got Nancy 
Pelosi  saying the center of the country today is progressive. Where do you 
think the  center lies in public opinion?  
KEVIN PHILLIPS: Well, I think the demographics of the change that we  
started out discussing, which is the great rise in non-whites it's not a center 
 
right country anymore in my opinion. But I think it's a centrist country 
with  tendencies towards frustration. And back in the 1970s I remember Pat 
Caddell,  who was Jimmy Carter's pollster, was polling on some of this stuff.  
And we sort of semi-collaborated a bit because we thought that affected 
both  parties because the radical center so to speak was angry in a way that 
neither  side could count on. I think that'll develop again. I don't want to 
say radical  center. But I think it's going to be a frustrated centrism that 
can lurch either  left or right, outdated terms, but it's probably going to 
be very unhappy if  anybody says, "We can reform and privatize Social 
Security." And the voter then  says, "Yeah, but you bailed out the rich." End 
of  
debate.

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