How do you answer the question?  The writer of the article suggests  that
the Jesus of faith exists apart from the Jesus of history.  I don't  see how
that is remotely possible; one presupposes the other and,  indeed,
each is identical to the other. But this leaves an historical  question.
And, no, I don't have a solid answer, at least not in this case.
 
Does faith require an answer to all historical questions ?  I don't  think 
so.
However, it can be argued that you need good answers to all questions
that are pressing. Not to do the necessary research, not to even try,
strikes me as an abdication of faith.
 
My humble opinion
Billy
 
 
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Published at RCP / Real Clear Religion
May 21, 2014
 
from the site :
Musings of a Priest
 
An Embarrassing Criterion

 
In 1964, the Pontifical Biblical Commission distinguished between how the  
words and actions of Jesus had been elaborated. Words and actions were first 
 witnessed. Words and actions were then set forth and adapted in preaching. 
Still  later, words and actions were reported or summarized or, even, 
developed in  accordance with the needs of a particular community. 
Those reconstructing the life of Jesus, then, distinguish between New  
Testament writings which are likely factual in their presentation of the words  
and actions of Jesus and writings which are likely not factual. John Meier, 
for  example, identifies criteria which produce judgments “more of less 
probable”  about what originates in Jesus. 
As to whether a word or act originates in Jesus or in the imagination of  
early Christian communities, embarrassment is considered relevant.  Early 
Christian communities, Meier reasons, would hardly have gone out of their  way 
to create materials embarrassing to themselves. A favorable level of  
historical plausibility, then, is associated with those words or action of 
Jesus  
which would have created embarrassment for those telling of such words or  
actions. 
Scholars not really existing in proximity to one another on the spectrum of 
 biblical thought, mostly, favorably assess an historical core to Jesus 
being  baptized by John the Baptist. This baptism is “one of the most securely 
grounded  facts in all the history of Jesus” (James Dunn) and is “as 
historically certain  as anything about either [Jesus or John] can be” (John 
Dominic Crossan).  Embarrassment grounds the supposed historicity of such a 
happening. 
The evangelists treat the baptism of Jesus in the following way: In Mark,  
baptisms by John surround repentance for sin and no explanation exists as to 
why  Jesus approaches John for baptism; in Matthew, a dialogue is 
introduced between  Jesus and John where John confesses his need to be baptized 
by 
Jesus but Jesus  responds that John should baptize him so as to fulfill “all 
righteousness”; in  Luke, John is imprisoned prior to the baptism of Jesus 
and the identity of the  person baptizing Jesus is not given; finally, in the 
fourth Gospel, no baptism  of Jesus occurs (though features of overlap 
exist). 
To Meier, early Christian communities are being stuck with an increasingly  
embarrassing moment in the life of Jesus: “The idea that Jesus, whom early  
Christianity considered sinless and the source of forgiveness for humanity, 
 should be associated with sinners by undergoing a ‘baptism of repentance 
for the  forgiveness of sins’ is hardly a fiction created by the church, 
unless the  church enjoyed multiplying difficulties for itself”. Embarrassment 
grounds the  supposed historicity of this happening but this, I think, is 
weaker ground than  often granted. 
Evidencing embarrassment, by surveying the movement of Matthew and Luke 
away  from Mark, misidentifies the impact of embarrassment by confusing the 
object of  embarrassment. When Matthew introduces a dialogue between Jesus and 
John – in  which John confesses his need to be baptized by Jesus and in 
which Jesus  responds by justifying his own baptism by John – it is more likely 
that Matthew  is responding not with embarrassment to the prospect of Jesus 
having once been  baptized, but to the Markan presentation of such a 
baptism. To Crossan, the  Markan rendering exists “without any defensive 
commentary”
. Likely such a  rendering, and not its potential historical core, 
motivates Matthew to introduce  a dialogue between Jesus and John. 
Vincent Taylor observes that the difficulty of having Jesus baptized by 
John  – John who baptizes for the remission of sins – has not occurred to 
Mark. Well …  it has to Matthew and Matthew being embarrassed by Mark is not 
evidence of there  being an historical core to the Markan text. 
The Markan rendering of the baptism of Jesus is preceded by the 
anticipation  of Jesus and followed by a description of the experience of 
Jesus. It 
could  indeed be true that Mark, here, mitigates the embarrassment of Jesus 
being  baptized by John but little is done to evidence the embarrassment of 
Mark with  whatever tradition he is passing along. That what Mark writes will 
later  embarrass others is not evidence of historical plausibility. 
I have great respect for those exploring questions of what Jesus Christ 
might  said or have did.  However, it is possible to overestimate the impact of 
 such a quest. As Sandra Schneiders writes, an overemphasized focus can “
subvert  the project of interpreting the New Testament as sacred Scripture. 
[It can]  suggest that the real purpose of New Testament research is to answer 
that  question [of what Jesus said or did] and that if it were to be 
answered  comprehensively it would give us access to the ‘real Jesus’ of 
Christian Faith.  Christian faith, however, bears upon Jesus as presented in 
the New 
Testament,  and proclaimed by the Church, and not on some figure of the 
past presumed to  ‘lie behind that text’”.

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