Used to listen to them on shortwave. David
On Aug 15, 2014, at 12:26 PM, Chris Hahn <[email protected]> wrote: > The first interview relates primarily to Turkey, the second is about the ISIS > persecution of people in Iraq whose culture predates Islam. > > http://www.dw.de/agenda-humanitarian-crisis-in-northern-iraq/av-17848328 > > Deutsche Wella provides a different perspective on global events with > thoughtful interviews from multiple perspectives. I just learned of it. > > Chris > > > > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 11:13 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [RC] Christians persecured in Iraq, both Bush and Obama indifferent > > > > There is a reason for indifference to the suffering of Christians in Iraq and > elsewhere in the Mid East and it is common to both Democrats and Republicans: > No-one wants to offend Muslims. The reason why they don't want to offend > Muslims is approximately the same reason why they don't want to offend black > people, the response would be violence. > > This is the cold, sober truth. > > Maybe it is time to say "to hell with it, if they respond with violence, then > they > should suffer the consequences." > > Of course, this is more-or-less moot when a president is pro-Islam, as was > George W Bush and as is Barack Hussein. In that case the greater good is > to placate Islam and sacrifice Christians -or sacrifice Jews or Hindus, etc > > Still another reason is ignorance of religion and the history of religion, > for which > there are several culprits, starting with the idiotic mantra that education > reduces > to STEM and nothing else really matters. But among the uses of Comparative > Religion and religious history is that such courses give you information about > what exists, about real people, and who they are and where they live. Each in > their own way, both George W and Hussein Obama, were/ are uninformed and > ill-prepared intellectually for their responsibilities. > > In my opinion anyone who voted for EITHER president deceived themselves > and led themselves down a garden path. > > For your information I voted for neither one of them because their limitations > and stupidity and ignorance and muddle-headedness was obvious to me > from the start. I regarded Bush as a complete incompetent all along and never > said otherwise. As for Obama, my view at all times has been that "Obamania," > a sort of religious fervor on his behalf, to the point of political > messianism, > was ridiculous and basically sick. It certainly made me sick and what also > made me sick was seeing so many otherwise smart people getting suckered > into this sickness. > > But hey, why study religion? Here is another reason, you stand a much greater > chance of understanding religious phenomena even when it exists in political > form > and not setting yourself up to worship a false messiah. Or in the case of > George W, > to not vote for a complete naif who, when asked who his favorite political > philosopher was, answered "Jesus." What the hell? In addition to being > mindless and a case of grandstanding, it showed everyone, instantly, how > poorly educate he really is. > Of course, in retrospect, he almost looks good in comparison to the > totally amateurish, brain damaged chief executive we now must endure. > Barack Hussein is Jimmy Carter except that he is black > > Billy > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > USA Today > > Kirsten Powers: Obama's inattention to Iraqi Christians > > Kirsten Powers 6:56 p.m. EDT August 13, 2014 > White House not addressing their persecution equally. > > It's starting to seem as if the Obama White House operates on a time delay. > In the case of Iraq's religious minorities, the results have been deadly. > > On June 10, the barbaric extremists called the Islamic State of Iraq and > Syria (ISIS) captured the city of Mosul. By mid-July, they issued an edict to > the Christians who remained to "convert, leave or be killed." > > The White House said nothing. > > Beginning on July 22, Rep. Frank Wolf, R-Va., took to the House floor six > times to plead for attention from the Obama administration as a genocide > threatened Iraq. > > Not a word from the president. > > On July 24, a resolution sponsored by Reps. Anna Eshoo, D-Calif., and Jeff > Fortenberry, R-Neb., "condemning the severe persecution (of) Christians and > other ethnic and religious minority communities ... in Iraq" was introduced > on the floor of the House. It called for the administration to "develop and > implement an immediate, coordinated and sustained humanitarian intervention." > > On Aug. 1, the House of Representatives passed a resolution sponsored by Rep. > Juan Vargas, D-Calif., calling for protection of religious minorities in Iraq. > > White House wake-up > > It wasn't until Aug. 5 that the administration acknowledged the crisis in > Iraq. It was done in the form of a statement, condemning attacks on religious > minorities, by the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Samantha Power. > > By last Thursday, the largely Christian towns of Qaraqosh, Tal Kayf, Bartella > and Karamlesh had fallen to the Islamic State. > > Finally, later that night -- and two full months after the crisis began -- > President Obama announced airstrikes in Iraq and for the first time > acknowledged that Christians are being driven from the homeland of their > faith. But the Christians garnered a passing mention, while the religious > minority of Yazidis seems to be what moved the president to act. > > An Iraqi Christian leader lamented to me that his people would have to > convert to get the administration's attention. > > Homeless Christians > > The Yazidis deserve protection and humanitarian aid, but so do the Christians > who number in the hundreds of thousands in Iraq. While the Yazidis received > air drops of food and water, nothing has been dropped to the Christians who > are homeless and in dire need of food and water. Each day that passes is a > matter of life and death. > > Why the indifference from the administration? > > The disinterest in the suffering of Iraqi Christians has been a bipartisan > travesty. During the Bush administration, nearly a million Christians fled > Iraq in fear for their lives. Ironically, it was Sen. Barack Obama who sent > the Bush State Department a letter in 2007 inquiring about this persecution. > Incredibly, the Bush administration denied there was a problem. > > Rep. Eshoo, a Chaldean Catholic whose father fled religious persecution in > Iran, told me, "This issue has been viewed with a real Western eye and a lack > of understanding and appreciation of who is there and how important these > religious minorities are. In the case of the Christians, these are the oldest > Christians in the world. They represent part of the glue for a diverse > society if there is to be one there. This whole issue represents an American > value of diversity and protection of minorities." > > Someone please tell the president. > > -- > -- > Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community > <[email protected]> > Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism > Radical Centrism website and blog: http://RadicalCentrism.org > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > -- > Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community > <[email protected]> > Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism > Radical Centrism website and blog: http://RadicalCentrism.org > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community <[email protected]> Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism Radical Centrism website and blog: http://RadicalCentrism.org --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community" group. 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