Hi Mike,

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> On Sep 16, 2015, at 15:46, MG <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> There's also the term "Vital Center," which was a favorite of Schlesinger. If 
> anything, I'd peg that as an alternative RC term.

Good point. Still, in getting the sense that Centrism as a term has outlived 
its shelf life. We need a better rallying cry...

E

> 
>> On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 5:09:55 AM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
>>  
>>  
>> Is the word "radical" political poison?  
>>  
>> To be certain the term is unpopular among moderates and
>> most establishment types; such people live for some version of
>> the status quo. They have no use for bold new ideas, no use for
>> political drama of any kind, and no use for people who have
>> strong moral principles.  But this is precisely why the word radical
>> is so appealing to many other people.
>>  
>> This is not some sort of empty assertion. Just a few days ago I circulated
>> a lengthy list of people and institutions that are out front in their use
>> of the word  -in which they obviously take pride.  Let us think about
>> a few of these examples.
>>  
>> Take Virginia's senator, John Warner. He was first elected seven years ago
>> advertising himself as a Radical Centrist. Which he more-or-less is.
>> He won re-election in 2014 running as a Radical Centrist, True, his
>> margin of victory was as narrow as it was possible to get, but the fact
>> was that he won  -despite a very strong Republican challenger
>> and a GOP tidal wave that drowned all kinds of Democrats
>> from coast to coast. Now may it be pointed out that the office
>> of Senator is as high as it gets except for governors of large states
>> and the presidency. This is no trivial thing.
>>  
>> Warner represents the East Coast branch of RC, associated with the
>> New American Foundation and The Atlantic magazine and website.
>> This branch dwarfs our small organization by an order of magnitude,
>> but this is to say that it has a lot of money and powerful institutional 
>> support. 
>> It does this even though its major spokesmen, thinking especially
>> of Michael Lind and Ted Halstead, self identify as Radical Centrists.
>> Indeed, a decade ago they co-authored a book called The Radical Center
>> which seems to have sold quite well.
>>  
>> Where does New American get its money?  There are maybe 100 significant
>> sources but among them are names like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet.
>> They know that New America sometimes calls itself a Radical Centrist
>> organization but that does not stop them from donating millions.
>>  
>> Then there is the NY Times, maybe you have heard of it.  On its staff
>> is Thomas Friedman, and maybe you have heard of him, too. Well, TF
>> is on record in his columns as being a Radical Centrist.  Personally
>> I don't think he is, or is at best is only a Radical Centrist now and then,
>> but the point is that he regards the phrase as something good,
>> he does not run away from it, he embraces it.
>>  
>> The same has been true  -also in both cases even if it was a
>> mischaracterization-   for Governor Schwarzenegger and
>> Governor Ventura, one a Republican and the other
>> a political Independent.
>>  
>> A host of non-profits call themselves Radical Centrist as do a
>> good number of private individuals including several journalists,
>> such as one in Arkansas and another in the state of Washington.
>> But who we should be most concerned about is the Quivira Coalition,
>> in bushiness for at least 15 or 20 years, mostly in New Mexico, Colorado,
>> Nevada, and other inland-West states  I think the group has
>> about 50,000 members, mostly ranchers, small business owners,
>> environmentalists, and the like.  To say the least this group is a model
>> of what can be done and an inspiration. They also are professed
>> Radical Centrists.
>>  
>> What do detractors of the word "radical" intend for RC.org?  That we
>> should ignore all of this and forget why all kinds of people freely choose
>> to use the term to describe themselves?  This is preposterous  -to use
>> the mildest possible rebuke to such an ill-advised critique. After all,
>> a good critique takes into account not only its own subjective dislikes
>> it acknowledges the strengths of  those who take an opposite position.
>> and forthrightly deals with them. But our most avid critic has never
>> done any such thing.
>>  
>> Finally there is the insulting character of that line of reasoning.
>> I can only speak for myself but suspect that Ernie has a similar attitude.
>> For a good number of years I have been outspoken in advocacy
>> of  Radical Centrism; my signature appears under well over 100 essays
>> and articles written primarily for RC.com and another large number
>> for other people. You don't realize that I gave my choice of using
>> this terminology a good deal of thought to begin with and continue
>> using it for reasons that are persuasive to me and that I believe
>> will eventually be persuasive to many others?
>>  
>> A moderate may feel strongly that he should be a moderate. OK, that is
>> not a problem for me.  And he can use whatever terminology that he
>> prefers, including middle or centrist (without a qualifier) or any other
>> such vocabulary.  But to rant to the effect that Radical Centrists
>> are "wrong" to choose this terminology, that the concept of RC
>> is somehow impossible to maintain, and so forth, well,
>> that crosses a line   -into extremely poor judgement.
>>  
>> Besides, try telling Senator Warner that his views are wrong
>> and that he cannot succeed in politics calling himself a
>> Radical Centrist. What do you suppose he would
>> say  to that?
>>  
>> But whatever Senator Warner says or does not say, I have my own
>> reasons for identifying as a Radical Centrist and take the greatest
>> possible pride in doing so.
>>  
>> Billy
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