Objectivity about religion
 
   
An interesting article about lessons from "Mars" about religious  faith
follows this essay. What that article suggests most of all is a question 
about objectivity and religion:  Why are so few  people objective 
about their faith? If you do not believe this is the fact of the matter 
you have not been paying attention. Almost no-one is objective
on the subject.
 
Partly the explanation is due to the "my wife" effect.  How many  husbands
are objective about their wives? And, of course, you could say about  the
same thing for wives apropos of their husbands. Yes, at least some  measure
of objectivity is possible, maybe a lot of objectivity,  but that does  not 
mean
that you will actually be objective.
 
This is because there is little to be gained and possibly a good deal to  
lose.
In marriage one accepts imperfections because of the great good in a
relationship, whether companionship or sexual gratification or the  children
or family connections, etc, including security, comfort, cuisine,  status,
and the like. And so, in  religion, there are all those  advantages: 
Strength
in numbers when defending one's values, mutual help, socializing with
people who comprise a 'second family,'  reinforcement of cultural  tastes,
education in various areas like respectability and perseverance,
maintenance of  cherished traditions,  and so forth. Hence Max  Weber's
hypothesis that evangelical Protestantism inspires those qualities  that
result in economic success in life, a concept that has since been  expanded
to say that each religion, or nearly each, -the great exception is Islam, 
which offers almost nothing except  depravation-  has some kind  of 
overall value that it inculcates in its adherents, for example  
entrepreneurship 
in Judaism, social cohesion in Confucianism, artistic sensitivity in  
Catholicism 
and eastern religions like Hinduism, a spirit of innovation  in Buddhism, 
etc.,
 
This leads to a related question:  Isn't objectivity  useful?  Isn't 
objectivity
valuable in its own right? And if so, why aren't more people  objective
about their faith?
 
Objectivity is clearly useful in business, sports, finance, the military, 
medicine, science, engineering, agriculture, the construction trades,
computer software, broadcast media, marketing, advertising,
education, and still other pursuits. You would think that
there would be a place for objectivity in religion also.
 
Actually, there is. It is called  "religious studies" in the  universities. 
There is also a literature to this effect that caters to the general  
reading 
public with such titles as Merlin Stone's When God Was a  Woman of 1976,
Elaine Pagels' The Gnostic Gospels of 1979, Harold Kushner's  When Bad 
Things Happen to Good  People of 1981, Arthur  Hertzberg's 1998  tome,
The Jews in America,  Andrew Newberg and others, Why  God Won't
Go Away, Brain Science and the Biology of  Belief,  published in 2001,
William Dean's  2002 The American Spiritual Culture   -and the Invention 
of Jazz, Football and the Movies, Stephen Prothero's  American Jesus 
of  2003,  The Future  of Faith by Harvey  Cox, also a 2003 opus, 
Larry  Witham's  Marketplace of the  Gods,  How Economics Explains 
Religion, of 2010,  and Ross Douthat's 2012, Bad  Religion: 
How We Became a Nation of Heretics.
 
There is also a hybrid category, exemplified by  Jonathan Haidt's  2014 
The Righteous Mind, which, while it is half  about political  thought, 
the other half is a major contribution to religious scholarship and
general understanding of religious thinking.
 
Which is not to say that all is well in this genre. A good number of
worthless books have appeared over the years, such as Lena Einhorn's
2007 example of  fantasy in the guise of scholarship, The Jesus  Mystery,
and any of Karen Armstrong's paeans of praise for the  head-in-the-clouds
see-no-evil version of Leftist philosophy, for example, her 1993 fairy  
tale, 
A History of God. And there are all those books by Von  Däniken
and Zecharia Sitchin, which essentially misinterpret just about every
historical fact presented in such volumes as Chariots of the Gods 
and The 12th Planet. Plus there is an "in-between" category,
like Dan Brown's The Da Vinci Code, filled with hard information 
and solid facts but including all sorts of dubious interpretations 
and unproven assertions as part of the bargain.
 
Regardless, there is a market for objectivity about religion. But don't  
look
for it in church nor in a traditional synagogue.
 
To focus just on good books about religion, texts that are as  objective
as anyone can reasonably hope for,  like those written by Elaine  Pagels
or Stephen Prothero, believers simply are not interested. Which is  meant
as a generalization that admits any number of exceptions, but the  point
is that this view of the situation is inescapable. How many Evangelicals 
that you know would have any interest at all in picking up a book like 
Marketplace of the Gods, which discusses economic motivation for 
religious commitment, or The American  Spiritual Culture, which discusses 
the forms that religion can take in the wider  culture?
 
This is even true, from what I can tell, for a  book like Ernest Kurtz and
Katherine Ketcham's 1992 The Spirituality of  Imperfection, Storytelling
and the Search for Meaning, which you  might suppose would be regarded
as very relevant since, after all, Evangelical  religion depends on telling 
stories,
on communicating core ideas by way of stories, and  analyzing the stories 
in the Bible. And what is true for Evangelicals is  approximately just as 
true for Orthodox Jews, eastern Orthodox  Christians, tradition-centered
Catholics and, doubtless, similarly,  for populations of Buddhists, Hindus,
Taoists, Zoroastrians, and others.
 
What believers do read  -not counting sacred scriptures-  is, by  my way of
reckoning, mostly religious pabulum:  Simplistic  moralizing, Potemkin 
Village
mentality in which nothing has any depth, and, speaking of religious  
reading, 
complete separation from all faiths and cultures other than one's  own.
Because, you see, all other faiths are fundamentally wrong, or if not
entirely benighted, perceived as essentially irrelevant.
 
Historically there have been some major exceptions to this kind of  rule.
This can be said for T'ang Dynasty China, 17th century Holland, and
early 19th century New England, the center of Protestant foreign
missionary efforts at the time. And in some parts of the contemporary 
United States the generalization  is "weak," such as in Hawaii,   where 
even the most staunch Christians come in contact with Buddhists on a 
daily basis in a culture in which Christian  faith is a minority  religion. 
Various cities also share this kind of religious diversity, Seattle,  
Phoenix, 
Chicago, Boston, etc.,  and a significant number of college  towns.  
But the rule nonetheless prevails: Other faiths are  inconsequential, 
there is little to learn from them, and basically it would be nice if they 
all faded away. Which is a view that, personally, I find  indefensible.
 
Nothing said here is intended to disparage a new generation of  Evangelicals
now coming of age after years of absorbing lessons learned by way of
Francis Schaeffer. His son, of course, is best known for taking a dim  view
of his father's religious life, which he found filled with unresolved  
issues,
inexplicable closed-mindedness on various questions, and a certain
amount of hypocrisy. Still, the new Evangelicals  -to call them  that-
don't demand perfection, they seek guidance even when it necessarily
is flawed. And they seek some way to make sense of the flood of
non-Christian ideas that dominate culture everywhere they turn.
 
In the past, until very recently  -and this still is true in many  
locations-
if you were a Christian there was no way to make sense at all of
Hegel or Hume, let alone Nietzsche, and critiques of religion, like  that
of Feuerbach  -or even Kierkegaard from within Christian  tradition.
As for Freud and other psychologists, his ideas were dismissed
as anathema on moral grounds despite his agreement with religious
believers about the fact that homosexuality is a pathology and
does no-one any good. But otherwise Freud was seen as an
advocate of a type of heterosexual morality that ran counter
to Christian values as they were understood in the first half
of the 20th century, not all that different than they had been
in the 19th century. Freud was simply out of bounds. 
 
As for social scientists like Durkheim, his Elementary Forms
of  the Religious Life of 1912,  translated into English  by
Joseph Swain in 1961, has had no impact whatsoever despite
how central it is in the study of religion as a social phenomenon.
And forget about Nicholas Wade's 2009 The Faith Instinct.
As far as Evangelicals are concerned  -and also Orthodox Jews
and Orthodox Christians-  religious origins are exactly as  recounted
in the Bible, pure primordial monotheism followed by an era of
corruption into polytheism, a view for which no hard supporting  
evidence exists; indeed, the evolution of religion seems  to have
followed exactly the opposite course, with no sign of monotheism
until maybe 850 BC unless you include Ahknaton's unique 
religious reforms of  ca. 1340 BC which apparently vanished
with him at his death.
 
Today's college educated youthful Evangelicals can hardly ignore 
such things. This is more-or-less unlike the experience of their elders, 
who, even if they attended college, did so in an environment that was 
still more Christian than not and in which questions of religious origins 
or the relationship of faith to psychology were only  rarely 
part of one's schooling.
 
It should also be noted that many or most contemporary Evangelicals 
seldom major in the Liberal Arts. They are most likely to enroll in
professional programs,  engineering, business, computer science, 
medicine, and the like, fields where questions of truth claims of
religion simply are not in the picture. But, as true as this may be,
more and more this is less and less the case. Added to the fact that
society is far different than it was as recently as the Reagan era,
younger Evangelicals often are not convinced by doctrines
that were mostly unarguable until the early 2000s.
 
For some Churches nothing has changed, of course. This is the case  for
Seventh Day Adventists, large numbers of  Baptists, Wesleyan  Methodists,
and others, and for many Pentecostals and Charismatics, but everywhere 
else a ferment is brewing. Not that this is necessarily for the  good; 
sometimes
it is the exact opposite as is the case for   -so far-   growing acceptance 
of 
homosexuality among this population,  but in other respects we can  welcome
the transition. Finally there is a groundswell of genuine interest in  
religious
truth claims in some other context than faith "first, last, and  always."
 
But how do you address such claims and the many honest doubts that
are part of the process of discovery that many go through in their  late
teens and their twenties? Especially if these same people start  families
there is reasonable fear of compromise and the loss of all the good
that comes with being part of a Christian community.  We are  back
at the beginning; it is generally understood that  membership and
the religious commitment that precedes it are not welcoming to
serious questioning.  
 
In a marriage constant questioning of a partner's shortcomings 
would be a sure invitation to estrangement and maybe divorce. 
In the context of a spiritual group questioning could very easily 
be interpreted as rejection of the group's moral consensus and 
of not accepting any authority  that is normal in a church  community; 
there are certain behaviors you do not indulge in, certain things you 
do not say, and certain things that are expected of you. 
 
"Are you one of us or aren't you?"
 
 
This is one reason for this essay,  the observation that religious  
believers
do not like to be questioned about their faith. Indeed, and this may  apply
to nearly all religions, the only way to react to questions is  defensively
or, at best, evasively. A church does not exist as a philosophical
debating society, it exists to minister to the "real life" needs of  the
people who are part of the community.
 
However, what happens when those real life needs consist  of  serious doubts
about a religion's truth claims? What modern people may want, and  some
people feel passionately about this, is a faith experience that not  only
features a caring community but a community dedicated to learning
the truth even about embarrassing questions.  
 
What is not much of an issue in ethnic or other tradition-defined religions 
are issues about objective truth. Doctrine says that all beliefs that are 
accepted are true by definition and in case there are any doubts, one can 
always read apologists of the faith, in the case of Christianity  thinkers
who go back to the very beginnings of the faith,  such figures  as Justin 
Martyr and Clement of Alexandria. If you want a comprehensive view 
it is impossible to do better than  Thomas Aquinas of the high  Middles 
Ages; 
more recent historically were Blaise Pascal of the 17th century, or  G.K. 
Chesterton of the early 20th century. And there are any number of  
moderns, Charles Colson is a noted example, or Andrew Greeley
or Martin Marty,
 
The trouble is that contemporary Evangelicals do not live in the  Christian
dominated worlds of most apologists of the past, hence there are  
assumptions
they cannot make, and the world of the Roman Empire in which early
Christian thinkers lived is utterly alien; you need a  serious grounding
in Classical era history to fathom what they really were saying
 
More to the point, what galls many young Evangelicals, and which is a
major criticism on the part of educated non-Christians, is the  absence
of intellectual curiosity in all too many churches. It just isn't  there.
Doctrine dominates, belief trumps all considerations, and the case 
to make is self-evidently true anyway  -even when it isn't  self-evident
at all except to those already within the faith.
 
Moreover, some of the standard arguments made by defenders of the  faith
are unconvincing. Like the so-called "trilemma" devised by C.S.  Lewis.
The Wikipedia article on the subject is instructive.
 
Essentially this is the view that either Jesus was who he said he was,  
God's
son and a divine incarnation on Earth, or else he was "evil or deluded." 
Also known as the "Lunatic, Liar, or Lord" argument, it maintains  that
the probability that Jesus was a liar or was crazy are vanishingly small  
and
that, therefore, he was God revealed to mankind.
 
This argument may be persuasive to Evangelicals but it doesn't take much 
looking to find others who regard the argument as totally  unconvincing.
This includes former Evangelical, Bart Ehrman, who noted that another
answer to the question is obvious, namely that claims about what  Jesus
said about his divinity really are legendary, that he never said them  even
though they were ascribed to him after the fact. This view is  supported
by the fact that the oldest Gospel, Mark, does not discuss a divinized 
Christ while only with the Gospel of John, which most scholars think
was the last written of the four in the New Testament, is the only  one
that requires such a belief.
 
That is, educated people, at least if they have background in history
or religious studies, make distinctions between the Gospels to the  effect
that the earliest are the most reliable in terms of what Jesus actually  
said
and did, while the last to be written, especially John since it does  not 
share
synoptic tradition, is the most unreliable. Evangelicals make no such
distinctions; for them each Gospel has equal weight  and all are true
even if we need to reconcile a few discrepancies, viz, did Jesus 
throw the money changers out of the Temple at the start of his
ministry as John says, or at the very end as the other three
gospels tell us?
 
There are still other perspectives on Lewis' argument that  Evangelicals
don't seem to know exist. For instance, maybe Jesus did say what
John ascribes to him but maybe he understood his own words
rather differently than his contemporaries. Perhaps he was speaking 
like a mystic or eastern guru and  "believed himself  to be God  in the 
sense 
that everything is divine."  This view is even more unconvincing than 
Lewis' contention, however, and  can be set  aside.
 
Far more relevant is the argument made by the late Christopher Hitchens, 
a noted Atheist of our time. According to Hitchens it is  necessary,
if we are to be honest about our real values, to look clinically at
this whole issue.  Maybe Jesus said those things but keep in mind that 
in the process he claimed a  "monopoly on  access to heaven," he 
threatened the doubtful "with everlasting fire," and was reputed to have 
done such things as condemning  fig trees and   commanding demons 
to take over the bodies of pigs. What does that make him?  Not a  liar,
not at all. "Such a person if not divine would be a sorcerer and a  
fanatic."
 
My own view is that we simply cannot take each "Jesus quote" in the  Gospels
as legitimate. Some clearly have the 'signature' of agrapha, oral "sayings" 
of  Jesus in circulation in the first century AD and then   borrowed by 
one or more of the gospel writers even though their authenticity 
was open to doubt. Unlike the deconstructionists it also seems to  me
that most of the quotes attributed to Jesus are accurate or come  close
to what he said, and it is only a relative few that don't pass a test
of consistency, that do not square with too many other statements 
to be accepted as genuine. 
 
Did Jesus really say that a believer must hate his mother and father 
to be a true follower of  him? To the extent that this was something  he 
said, 
the least that seems to be true here is that we don't have the full  
quotation, 
or that the writer misunderstood what Jesus really intended and garbled 
his words. But it seems more likely that this started as an agrapha created 
by a wandering believer who had his own problems with family members 
and who then justified himself  by attributing his personal  
rationalizations 
to Christ. We can never know but this kind of supposition, it seems  
obvious,
is a far better approach to take than unquestioning faith.
 
Further, maybe Jesus believed what he said, presuming accuracy of the
quotes in the Gospels, but sometimes simply was mistaken. He wasn't
lying, he wasn't insane, he simply was inaccurate now and then.
 
But did Jesus really say everything attributed to him?  The "I am"  material
in John clearly was influenced by  Thunder Perfect Mind in  which the
Goddess Isis describes herself with a list of  "I am" statements. In  John
the most famous of these quotes occurs in chapter 8:   “Truly, Truly, I say 
to you, before Abraham was born, I am”,  which is so similar to  statements
in Thunder that there can be no doubt about its origin.  There are  seven 
similar quotes in the text, viz, Jesus is the good shepherd, the light of  
the 
world, the true vine, the way, and the truth,  and the life, etc, each  
claim 
preceded by "I am."  The formula comes right out of  Isis  tradition.
 
Here are several verbatim quotes from Thunder Perfect Mind. 
 
The translation is found online at _www.stoa.org/diotima_ 
(http://www.stoa.org/diotima)  and follows
the Coptic text from the Nag Hammadi Codices as prepared by
G. W. MacRae. No-one knows the exact date of the original
but from stylistic considerations and other internal evidence
scholars generally give it a date some time before 350 BC, although
possibly a Ptolemaic origin somewhat later cannot be ruled out.
This was also an influence on Koheleth of  Ecclesiastes and he 
wrote in Ptolemaic times. In any case, this is wisdom literature
at its very best.

 
For I am the first and the last. 
I am the honored and the scorned,  
I am the harlot and the holy one.
I am the wife and the virgin. 
I am  the mother and the daughter...


I am the incomprehensible silence and the much-remembered thought.
I am  the voice of many sounds and the utterance (logos) of many forms. 
I am the  utterance of my name
 
For I am the Wisdom of Greeks 
And the Gnosis of non-Greeks. 
I am  judgment for Greeks and non-Greeks. 
I am the one whose image is multiple in  Egypt.
And the one who has no image among non-Greeks. 
 
For I am the one who alone exists, 
And I have no one who will judge me.  
For many are the sweet forms that exist in numerous sins 
And unrestrained  acts and disgraceful passions, and temporal pleasures,
Which are restrained  until they become sober 
And run up to their place of rest.
And they will  find me there,
And they will live and they will not die again 
 
To understate the matter, here we have a case of literary  borrowing.
Personally I think this was all for the good, what was borrowed was
golden, inspirational, and well worth thinking about. But this surely  was
a borrowing, just as several passages in the Sermon on the Mount
were borrowed from the Aramaic language Sayings of Ahiqar
which originated as Assyrian wisdom literature. 
 
How would you know anything of the kind if your only frame of  reference
was Evangelical religion  -or eastern Orthodoxy or  standard Catholicism?
For Evangelicals the only acceptable way to interpret the Bible is in  terms
of the Bible, that is, comparing one passage of the book with other
passages that deal with the same subject. But going outside the Bible
to look for ideas or  -perish the thought-  new truths, is  strictly 
verboten.
 
Take a classic example of Evangelical writing, Edith Deen's 1955  opus,
All of the Women of the Bible, certainly a topic worth exploring.  But to 
my great chagrin, when starting to read the book, all that was there to  be
found were summaries of various passages in the Bible presented as  if
there was nothing else that could possibly be said of any value. Which  is
preposterous and utterly naive. You cannot possibly understand the  story
of Esther, for instance, unless you study the history of Ishtar  religion
in Mesopotamia (Esther is a variant of Ishtar, that name firmly  attested
in the Diyala region of today's Iraq), and references to Naomi in the book 
of  Ruth come very close, indeed, to descriptions of Inanna, the  Sumerian 
version of Ishtar, elsewhere in Mesopotamia. Which should hardly  be 
surprising  since the Bible itself, as in Genesis 27 and Joshua 24, is  
clear 
that the ancestors of the Hebrews were Mesopotamians themselves.
 
All of which is merely the beginning of such observations.  You can  almost
go so far as to say that you cannot understand anything of the  Bible
without serious knowledge of the ancient Mid East and ancient Rome,
but that would be pushing things to overstate a point. Regardless,  there
is much in the Bible that cannot be understood without such knowledge
and far more than 99% of Christians (or Jews) realize.
 
Exactly why should intellectual curiosity be devalued among  Evangelicals
and their spiritual kin of other faiths? And please do not reply with  an
appeal to the appearance of intellectual curiosity that is, in  reality,
no such thing. It is not an example of intellectual curiosity to  memorize
large swaths of the Bible and then be able to cite "proof texts" in
answering questions as if the Judeo-Christian scriptures consisted
of little more than a collection of laws to look up whenever some  kind
of question arises, with the answer already decided eons ago.
 
Hence the observation that, yes, Evangelicals can be competent
Bible scholars. If,  that is, you want to drill down into the  meaning
of particular words in Hebrew or Greek,  or establish specific
details of fact like exactly where the well was located where Jesus
spoke to the Samaritan woman or exactly what kind of coin Jesus
was referring to when he commented that we should "render 
unto Caesar." But these are not the kinds of  issues that matter
to most people and certainly, while they reflect a certain kind
of curiosity, are hardly intellectual in nature. 
 
In other words, Evangelicals  -not all, but surely a large  majority-
are not intellectually curious and, as a result, they may be  perceived
as intellectually dishonest. They don't want to even think about the
kinds of questions that mean the most to modern,  educated
men and women. The only replies they have are stock answers,
"off the shelf," no thought required. And who needs that?
 
Evangelicals make a valid point, though, in observing that those who
are intellectually curious, as often as not, betray Christian  faith.
 
This is hardly a trivial issue; it is central to  everything else. What 
good is
intellectual curiosity if it destroys faith and all the useful products of  
faith?
This is the core dilemma of religion in modern-day America.
 
Perhaps the prime example of this is Bart Ehrman, a renowned Biblical 
scholar who makes no secret of this Evangelical roots. His books 
sometimes provide autobiographical vignettes of his true-believer 
Christian past. What he says in these soliloquies is entirely convincing, 
as they would be to anyone who has also lived through something similar. 
At some point literalistic-minded Evangelical faith becomes untenable 
if you have a genuine commitment to truthfulness, wherever it may lead. 
But is the only place to go, into the arms of  Leftist  nihilists?  For 
that is 
the condition of most of the contemporary Left, it is nihilistic in  
character 
from the movies it prefers to the books it recommends, its heroes, 
and the causes it champions. 
 
Maybe none of this is presented as nihilism but what else do you  call
the values on which today's Left is based?  This is not the Left of a 
generation or two ago, which was idealistic and not a little utopian. 
There is little resemblance between the moral Liberalism or Leftism of,  
say, 
John F. Kennedy or Erich Fromm,  and what passes for Liberalism /  Leftism 
in our day. Today's Leftists champion such causes as that of  Trayvon  
Martin, 
a young black hoodlum of no accomplishment whatsoever, clearly a  teen
criminal, in contrast to Left-wing black heroes of another era who were 
respected community leaders and sometimes well educated 
college graduates. 
 
And there is gender feminism with its mindless male bashing and
anti-intellectualism centered on opposition to evolution /  sociobiology.
There also is a penchant for Anarchism (ever hear of Noam Chomsky?), 
and there is ludicrous deference to Islam on the grounds that Muslims
are an oppressed people, none of the crimes of jihadists regarded  as
cause enough to disavow Muhammad's proto-Fascist religion.  Plus there is 
rising anti-Semitism on the Left along with growing hatred of the state 
of Israel,  and there is a complete capitulation to one of the  
arch-enemies 
of the Left in the past, the homosexual movement and its leadership. 
 
Marx and Engels, as we learn from scholarship in the Journal   of  
Homosexuality for 1995, were adamant in their condemnations  of  
same sex activities which they characterized as disgusting and filthy. 
Similarly most early Socialist leaders, like August Bebel in Germany, 
regarded homosexuality as perverse and dangerous, and the Social 
Democrats were outspoken critics of the Nazis inasmuch as the leadership 
of  the NSDAP consisted of a number of overt homosexuals like Ernst  Rohm. 
Socialist opposition to homosexuality continued into the 1960s and 1970s, 
with SPUSA leader Erich Fromm clear that he considered homosexuality
a mental illness. Indeed, until the end of the 1990s and into the  early
2000s, there was still  Leftist opposition to toleration of  homosexuality,
the last significant group to switch its position apparently being the 
Trotskyist Socialist Workers Party.
 
But this is all gone now, and the last Democrats to show any  knowledge
of the issue or show any spine, people like former Senator, Sam Nunn 
of Georgia, or Representative Dan Lipinski of Illinois, are in a  small
minority in the party.
 
Which is absurd. All relevant research on the issue demonstrates that
homosexuality is what it has always been, a grievous personality
disorder,  -a mental illness-  and that the organization most  responsible
for 'normalizing' this sickness, the American Psychiatric  Association,
has been captive to homosexual interests since 1972. See Charles
Socarides' 1995 Homosexuality, A Freedom Too Far, as a good  place
to start in gaining a meaningful knowledge base on the subject,
and O.R. Adams' 2001 As We Sodomize America, which the
author has regularly updated at his American Traditions website.
 
But what can anyone expect in a climate of cultural nihilism? This  has
infected the Right, as well, where you don't find any Anarchists but
do find numerous  pro-homosexual Libertarians. But our  concern
in this context is the Left and the Left as a destination for  disaffected
thinkers like Ehrman.  Is this "solution" any good at all?
 
Does it even make sense given the decidedly anti-religious  views
of  many of  the leaders of the Democratic Party, not to  mention
almost universal Atheism among Left-wingers outside the party?
 
The problem is compounded by the narrow focus of most "liberals."
By the way, quotation makes are put around the world to distinguish
modern-day Leftism from the authentic Liberalism of the New Deal
and New  Frontier eras,  or from philosophical liberalism exemplified
by people like John Stuart Mill or John Dewey or possibly (the jury
is still out) Michael Sandel.
 
It was Jonathan Haidt who observed the intense concentration on  justice
issues of today's (so-called) Liberals. But how advisable is such  focus?
 
Hopefully we can agree that there are times when the injunction in  the
Hebrew Bible (Old Testament) book of Amos is what is needed most
in a given situation:  “Let justice roll on like a  river, righteousness 
like 
a never-failing stream.”  There is terrible injustice in the world  and
this is a problem that never goes away, it always exists in some  form.
However, is justice really what is most important in most situations?
 
Recently I exchanged e-mail letters with a friend, and we discussed  this
matter with some care. Here are some quotes, somewhat edited,
from my part in the conversation  -to keep this as simple as  possible:
 
 
 
"What the issue comes down to, I believe, is one's evaluation of what 
you think is the Number 1 problem in the world. Years ago I thought 
it was justice. Hence the great relevance of Amos, and not only him.
For sure, justice  -lack of justice-  remains a serious problem.  But 
starting in the late 80s, certainly by the early 90s, my view had  shifted.
It now seems to me that a far worse problem is ignorance and  stupidity
in association with choosing one's core values.
 
What was the reason for my switch in emphasis?  Several factors but 
near the top of the list was the realization that not only are the "lower 
socioeconomic classes" often  less than noble beings, and that an  ideology
which praises the wretched of the Earth as intrinsically good and  pure
is completely unrealistic about who they really are. Moreover, the  upper
classes are just about as ignorant about what matters most in life
and cultivate their ignorance  -largely through unjust actions
that screw everyone else.
 
The lower classes can and do indulge in their own injustices, of  course.
 
But this leaves ignorance as the root cause, injustice, as important
as it is, nonetheless secondary.

 
There was a cartoon some years ago about a medfly infestation of   farms 
in California. Left-wing enviros were making loud noises about how 'cruel' 
it was to seek to exterminate the medfly. The cartoonist portrayed a  
Leftist
crying about the fate of the poor innocent medfly while crops were 
being destroyed throughout the San Fernando Valley.
 
Which says that unless the object of one's ire about injustice  deserves 
attention and mobilization it should not get it.
 
The question is one of knowledge.  Were some percentage of  Cambodians
oppressed by the monarchy in the Sihanouk era ?  Maybe they  were,
but did that justify Pol Pot?  What could possibly justify a butcher  like 
him
and a movement like the Khmer Rouge?  
 
The point is that there is no morality that matters under Communism. This  
has
been the case for all Communist regimes everywhere on Earth even if  some,
like Tito's regime in the former Yugoslavia, were far better than  others.
And for all of the corruption that existed in South Viet Nam in the  1960s
did the country deserve a Communist dictatorship that persecutes
religious people as a matter of policy? Yet the also immoral Viet  Cong
and the North Vietnamese Communists were lionized by people like 
Jane Fonda. In what way is that kind of thing justifiable? Yet Communist 
regimes and movements have been defended by the Left on "justice" grounds 
since at least  the time of Frantz Fanon.
 
And so it goes in America,  with many of the issues championed 
by contemporary hard core feminists in that kind of category, by my lights 
not at all deserving consideration on the basis of justice because they are 
so utterly wrong  about way too much. As is the case of Leftists  who
reflexively defend black rioters on principle regardless of the  merits
or total lack of merit of the case they may make."
 
My e-mails went on to observe that Jonathan Haidt has wrestled
with a similar problem. Haidt was a hard core 'liberal' in the modern 
sense of the word in the 1990s but then, as part of field work, he 
spent a good amount of time in India among traditionalist Hindus.  
At the end of his time there he could no longer maintain his previous 
ideological liberalism, it was simply too shallow, too 1-dimensional, 
and too unrealistic. It was a liberalism based on little more than
considerations of justice. But is this either realistic or  intellectually
defensible? What about other important considerations like loyalty
to one's family or community or nation? What about the need for
respected authority essential to get things done? What about the
need for freedom of conscience and free speech? What about
feelings of sacredness, that some things in life deserve to be
safeguarded and cherished because of the meanings they impart
to our lives? And there are still other considerations like compassion, 
viz, care for others and concern that people are not harmed if they
express themselves openly and honestly.
 
The current Left fails these tests miserably and only passes the justice  
test
and even then only with qualification, and has some standing on the
issue of compassion. Libertarians are even worse, with their fixation on 
individual freedom as if that was the be-all and end-all of  everything
worth thinking about. 
 
There is also the Atheist factor to consider. As Haidt put it in his  book,
"the very ritual practices that the New Atheists dismiss as costly,  
inefficient 
and irrational turn out to be a solution to one of the hardest problems 
humans face: cooperation without kinship”  In other  words, religion
is the best glue for keeping communities together and providing
help to its members  even though human beings have a natural
and sometimes overwhelming tendency to limit their altruism
to blood relatives or kindred by reason of marriage. Yet the Left
-and to some extent this has been true since the 18th century-
prides itself on opposition to religion, as if  religion was an  evil
or a disease that should be eradicated. 


Conservatives have their own limitations  -such as excessive trust  in
the worth of tradition, or  limited horizons, which is related to  lack
of intellectual curiosity-   but what most characterizes the  conservative
outlook is the fairly equal weight it assigns to each of these  areas.
And shouldn't we seek balance in our philosophy of life?
 
This realization was what convinced Haidt that he could no longer
identify with the political Left. And it wasn't the result of bull  sessions
with drinking buddies or armchair reflection after reading a few  books
that he found provocative. He researched the issue over the course
of several years as part of his work as a social psychologist at
the University of Virginia, certainly a respected academic
institution. His views represent thousands of hours of
empirical research carried out not only by him but by
teams of qualified social psychologists.
 
 
Needless to say, this presented problems to a certified academic
in a world where Left-wing views are considered normative and
mostly unarguable.
 
Haidt's eventual solution was a politics that, as I see it, comes very  
close
to Radical Centrism. Haidt was far too familiar with the critiques of the 
Right by the Left to move into any kind of  conservative camp; 
he could not possibly go there. And I know the feeling  -for exactly 
the same reason.  The Right is  -to use vernacular-  full of  crap about
way too much. Yet he could not remain in the liberal camp because 
he now saw its structural flaws for what they are.

 
What is needed, in other words, is a new kind of politics that is  neither
Left nor Right but that tries to make whatever is objectively good  about
both the Right and Left its own, and to add useful new ideas to the mix 
as they can be identified or created. This is not a matter of half  measure
compromises but whole-hearted acceptance of ideas and values
exactly in the form (or with few modifications) as they are known
and  cherished by liberals or conservatives.
 
This is also based on truth seeking. About this subject Haidt says a 
great deal but here is a somewhat lengthy paragraph from his book
that spells it all out, that explains why we need a new kind of
"beyond Left and Right" political philosophy:
 
 
“We should not expect individuals to produce good, open-minded, 
truth-seeking reasoning, particularly when self-interest or [concerns about 
reputation]...are in play. But if you put individuals together in the right 
 way, 
such that some individuals can use their reasoning powers to disconfirm 
the claims of others, and all individuals feel some common bond or 
shared fate that allows them to interact civilly, you can create a group 
that ends up producing good reasoning as an emergent property of the 
social system. This is why it's so important to have intellectual and  
ideological 
diversity within any group or institution whose goal is to find truth (such 
 as 
an intelligence agency or a community of scientists) or to produce 
good public policy (such as a legislature or advisory board).”
 
 
We can take this insight even further.
 
Here is where Rebekah Simon-Peter's essay is most germane. What if
a hypothetical Martian was to visit our planet in the manner of the  hero
of  The Day the Earth Stood Still ? What would a  dispassionately
objective extraterrestrial recommend by way of religion?
 
Two of Rebekah's 'new commandments' strike me as absolutely  vital:
Thou shalt step into the unknown.
Thou shalt give thy all.
 
Her other commandments certainly have value, especially since they  keep
one's feet  firmly on the ground, much of her advice is  pragmatic, but 
there is
a direction we can choose to go in that she did not consider.  What  is
objectively best for a religion?  This question does not make a claim  
on behalf of any faith but simply asks "what is for the best?" 
On what grounds? 
 
Two additional quotes from Haidt's book can be cited  here:
 
“Understanding the simple fact that morality differs around the world, 
and even within societies, is the first step toward understanding 
your righteous mind.” 
 
"When a group of people make something sacred, the members 
of the cult lose the ability to think clearly about it."
 
In so many words, it isn't easy to be objective unless you know what
you are up against, including your own tendency to overvalue the
ideas of the in-group you identify with and the tendency to devalue
the ideas of all other groups on principle.
 
Some theologies also are major impediments to objectivity. Another 
personal observation, the Baha'i Faith, in the years I was a member, 
opened my eyes to a world of ideas and beauty that I had no idea existed 
in the previous years when I was a Baptist. Regardless, after some  time 
it became all too clear that there was a huge problem with the Baha'i 
outlook, its view that all religions  -of those it regards as  authentic, 
essentially the "great religions" of the world-  should be considered 
as equals, each with the same value even if details differed 
from one faith to another.
 
This view, the more I thought about it, starting in the late 1980s,  is
indefensible. There are major differences and some religions simply
are incompatible with all others, as is the case of Islam,  all  
hyper-zealous
faiths like the Haredim and Nicheren, not to mention fringe groups  like
Satanists and cults like the Branch Davidians. 
 
It is essential to get this right, otherwise you are asking for more than 
headaches, you are asking  others to overlook your commitment 
to an ideology that is based on idealism founded on  willful denial of 
facts. 
This is not to ignore the good intentions of the Baha'i position,   which 
is 
similar to the views of Theosophists,  Unitarians, and many New Age 
groups, but it is to say that this outlook, if you maintain it after  
serious
study of the reality of the religions of the world, is grossly  dishonest.
You need to make distinctions, and they need to be objective.
 
The other lesson to learn from Haidt in this context is that once  something
has been identified as sacred, once you start to believe it is  sacrosanct,
it becomes subjective as part of your identity and only allows  objective
discussion under special circumstances. Hence, "of course, the  Catholic
Church is the one true faith, where would you like to start the  
discussion?"
 
What discussion?  There could not possibly be a discussion. 
 
However, what if your touchstone is Malachi 1: 11?
 
"From the furthest East to the furthest West my name is  great among the 
nations. Everywhere fragrant sacrifice and pure  gifts  are offered in my 
name,
for my name is great among the nations, says the Lord  of  Hosts."
 
A date of something like 400 BC is reasonable for this passage,
a time when the Persian Empire ruled a vast area that encompassed
most of the known world as Jews (and others) knew it.  The  passage
therefore refers by implication to the great religions of that Age,
namely Judaism, Hinduism in an early form, Buddhism, Taoism,
Confucianism, Shinto, Jainism, and others, but especially the  dominant
faith of the empire itself, Zoroastrianism. You can certainly argue  that
it allows for the rise of Christian faith and maybe something along
the lines of classic Manicheanism.  We can add that this includes 
various forms of Ishtar worship then still extant, Orphism, the  religion
of the Goddess Isis, and the mystery religions. It can even be taken
to include some versions of Shamanism. Yet there is only so far
this can go.  A number of later developments are completely  outside
the Pale, like Islam, a religion that demands a morality which is
close to the exact opposite of all other religions on Earth.
 
But think about what this suggests  -and, please note, this verse  is
not translated in the present tense of Malachi's original Hebrew
in either the King James Version or in the NIV, where everything  is
phrased in future tense as not having happened yet. But actual 
scholarship is unanimous to the effect that Malachi was talking about 
the world he knew as a Jew living in the (Zoroastrian) Persian  Empire,
of which Judea was a part.
 
What this says is remarkable. It allow us a profound starting point
for thinking about the religions of the world and from there we can 
ask questions about what, exactly, we can learn from other faiths
and other traditions.  At the same time it sets limits. Whatever  is
incompatible with the religions that Malachi alluded to, is out
of bounds, to be rigorously questioned and rejected if essential
tests of morality are not met.  
 
With this as our sacred "Ur text" questions of religious faith take  on
a whole new cast compared to all exclusivist religious doctrines.
And this tells us that it should be entirely possible for a faith
based on the Bible to be radically ecumenical  -hence also
radically objective. This, in turn, places a premium on  judgement   
as most important as a lodestar to be guided by in matters
of faith and, for that matter, everything else.
 
Not at all incidentally, there are other passages in the Bible that  are
entirely congruent with Malachi 1: 11. For instance the  material in Genesis
about Melchizedek,  who is not a Hebrew but who is favored by  God
to bless Abraham and the first covenant, the non-Hebrew prophet  Balaam
in the book of Numbers, and the material in second Isaiah where  the
Persian and Zoroastrian emperor, Cyrus, is proclaimed a messiah,
but let us cite one example from the New Testament. We could refer
to the book of Hebrews in which Christ is compared with Melchizedek,
or to passages in the Gospel of John where Jesus says that in his
Father's house are many mansions, viz, many faiths, but let us look at 
Acts 10: 34-35 which says-
 
"Peter began: 'I now see how true it is that God has no favourites,  
but that in every nation the man who is godfearing and does 
what is right is acceptable to him."
 
What is especially important about this verse is that it comes as a  climax
to a pericope  -series of related verses that concern a single  story-
which begins, in Acts 4 where Peter says that the only salvation  possible
is through the name of Jesus. What follows is the equivalent of the  kind
of progression that is found in a dialogue by Plato in which an early
statement of conviction is gradually replaced by new and superior
insight and eventually the speaker has a major change of heart.
But you wouldn't know this ,either, unless you had some kind of
background in Greek philosophy.
 
Which is to say that "Jesus only" theology is fundamentally  fallacious.
 
 
You cannot understand the Bible only by reference to the  Bible;
that is an impossibility. You need a grounding in the history of  religion,
especially religions of the ancient world. Otherwise in your  interpretation
of scripture you will make mistake after mistake, guaranteed. You may
still make mistakes otherwise, but at least they won't be based on 
guesswork and you will have a fighting chance of breakthroughs 
to new truths.
 
All of this said, to return to the e-mails to my friend, we need to  face,
head-on, "a problem in Christianity generally, news  literacy and  literary 
literacy at large. What is it about Christianity that does not  inspire 
people 
to make themselves well informed?  
 

To ask this is also to ask why so many Jews do seem well  informed
and why large segments of Catholics and Lutherans are well informed.
And I would guess that urban Episcopalians are also well informed,
and  some others, but the generalization seems valid enough. Modernist 
(liberal) Protestants are also basically in the well-informed camp, too. 
But this is not the case for most Evangelicals and, it would seem, 
a large part of the rural Christian population of any stripe.
 
But here is the crux of the matter: The trouble with the well-informed 
"liberal Christians" is that for them the New York Times editorial  pages 
replace the New Testament and they have no Old Testament to begin with. 
What does that leave?"
 
Is it any wonder that, even if a significant percentage of 'modernist' 
Christians is dedicated to objective truth,  -a proposition that is 
open to debate- obviously they are doing something very wrong. 
With some exceptions wherever you look the liberal churches are 
collapsing, it is a not-so-slow-motion implosion.
 
Where is the soul searching?  I do not know of any, do you? What there  is,
is doubling down on liberal theology, which, as of 2015, is hardly  much
different than talking points of the DNC. 

 
What is the solution?  My solution is to start over and do it right  this 
time.
My ideology derives directly from Henri Saint-Simon, the avidly
pro-American "father of Socialism," although his version of Socialism
is much better described as Capitalist-Socialism, and those who were
'converted' to his ideas were mostly engineers, entrepreneurs, tradesmen, 
artists of one kind or another, scholars, forward thinking  businessmen,
and bankers like the Rothschilds. He lived before anyone had heard of 
Marx and his influence extended to people like John Stuart Mill and
August Comte. He was anything but perfect but he was a visionary
with whom I identify.
 
It was Saint-Simon's view, expressed in his last book, The New  
Christianity,
published in 1825, that what we need is a new kind of Christian faith, one  
that 
is based not only on faith but on science, creativity, and objectivity. Yet 
 it 
must be communal, it must be a  faith, and it must appeal to  people in 
their
real lives. It should be a source of inspiration and a commitment to  the
highest purposes that people may choose for themselves. 
 
For me this must be Biblical and centered on Christ; otherwise it  would
hardly be a form of Christianity. But it should have as its  foundation
the kind of ecumenical outlook found in Malachi 1: 11 and  many other
passages in the Bible. Necessarily it should be Buddhist in some  ways,
Hindu in others, Jewish, Zoroastrian, Taoist and Confucian, with a  sense
of the sacred in nature as found in Shinto. But above all it needs to
be as honest and truthful as it is possible to get. No polite  fictions,
no pretense, and no denial of facts.
 
It should be something to live for with all your heart, mind, and  soul.
 
 
This is my dream.
 
 
Billy Rojas
October 18, 2015
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Rebekah Simon-Peter blog
 
10 Commandments for a Martian Church
By: Rebekah Simon-Peter
October 12,  2015

 
 
The recently released movie _The  Martian_ 
(http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_martian/)  starring Matt Damon tells the 
not-so-far-out tale of  
botanist Mark Watney left for dead on the planet Mars.  His fellow crew  
members 
have reluctantly left him behind to undertake the 4 year return voyage  to 
Earth.  When he comes to after being knocked unconscious he is faced  with a 
series of catastrophic realties he must tackle in order to survive.  
While not explicitly a story of faith–Watney says he’ll have to “science 
the  s&!# out of things”–it’s a great metaphor for the church in this day 
and  age. 
Watney is up against what _David and Goliath_ 
(http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316204374?keywords=david%20and%20goliath%20malcolm%20gladwell&qid=14447
04482&ref_=sr_1_1&s=books&sr=1-1)  author Malcolm Gladwell calls  “
desirable difficulties” which hone his imagination and capitalize on his desire 
 to 
live. Much like dyslexics who innovate and orphans who excel precisely  
because of their difficulties, Watney rises to the occasion, and [spoiler 
alert] 
 survives.  Indeed, thrives. 
The church has a history of thriving when the chips are down.  We grow  
comfortable and weak when all is well.  We would do well to remember our  rocky 
history when bemoaning our post-Christian world and spiritual but  
religious cohorts.  What can the church learn from The  Martian?  Here are 10 
Commandments for a Martian Church. 
    1.  Thou shalt step into the unknown.  The premise of  The Martian is 
the courage of astronauts to go to Mars and to set up  camp in an unforgiving 
environment.  Getting left behind in that  environment pushed the 
uncertainty principle to the max.  Congregational  survival similarly calls for 
a 
willingness to purposefully move into new  territory.  We can’t sail new seas 
and stay in a safe harbor at the same  time.  
    2.  Thou shalt flex thy faith muscles.  Watney doesn’t  express an 
explicit faith in God.  But he demonstrates faith in himself  and his training. 
 
That faith is tested time and again.  Instead of  weakening under scrutiny 
it grows stronger.  Here’s the thing,  church:  certainty does not require 
faith.  Only uncertainty  does.  In the early years of the life of the 
church, no one was sure if  this thing would survive or if all the followers of 
Jesus would be  martyred.  Following him took a vigorous, muscular faith.  Our 
faith  muscles, by contrast, are fairly weak and flabby.  What if we were 
to  embrace uncertainty as an opportunity to grow stronger?  
    3.  Thou shalt embrace pain.  The first obstacle Watney  encounters 
might have done the rest of us in.  In order to not bleed to  death, he has to 
perform painful surgery on himself.  It would have made  sense for him to 
lay down and die right then and there.  Instead, he is  willing to endure more 
pain to get on the right track.  Is your church  embracing the pain of 
corrective self-surgery or is it bleeding out?  
    4.  That shalt not blame.  Watney demonstrates  remarkably good humor 
and compassion in the face of intense isolation,  seemingly insurmountable 
odds, and several failed attempts at survival.   He doesn’t blame his crew, 
Mars, NASA, God, or himself.  Instead, he  understands and approves of the 
decision his crew made.  He goes to work  with what he’s got.  How much energy 
do we waste on blame when we could  be putting it toward creativity and 
faith flexing?  Things are the way  they are.  Let go of blame and get on with 
it.  
    5.  That shall not covet thy neighbor’s success.  Watney  doesn’t get 
lost in the fantasy that life would be better if only…  Covetousness blinds 
us to what we do have.  The next time you drift into  envy over 
megachurches, famous pastors, large budgets or fabulous buildings,  you are 
wasting 
precious energy on fantasy.  Do like Watney:   improvise, improvise, improvise. 
 
That too is the stuff of faith.  
    6.  Thou shalt fail.  Being willing to fail is the only  way to truly 
succeed.  Watney had to put his limited resources on the  line in order to 
figure out what would actually work.  He failed, and  failed big.  More than 
once.  But those failures are what pushed him  to ultimately succeed.  When 
the church is unwilling to fail, or to lose  only a little, it is also 
unwilling to succeed big.  Big fails require  big faith.  Big faith leads to 
big 
breakthroughs.  
    7.  Thou shalt not be blind.  Only one thing drives  Watney’s efforts:  
his desire to live.  This vision pushes him  through pain, failure and the 
seemingly impossible.  It gives him the  courage to try things that seem 
impossible.  If your church is not  operating with a fresh and compelling 
vision, its hard to imagine you’ll do  more than limp along until death.  
    8.  Thou shalt give thy all.  At one point, Watney must  concede that 
he may in fact not make it.  He asks the Commander to break  the news to his 
mother and father, if needed.  “Tell them I love  them.  Tell them I loved 
my work.  Tell them I have died in the  service of something greater than 
myself.  And that it was worth  it.”  If your church has tried everything, 
failed, and must die, be proud  that you gave your all.  
    9.  Thou shalt give back.  After Watney comes back to  Earth, he gives 
back.  Another person might have hid away and nursed  their wounds, or gone 
on a vendetta.  Not Watney.  He becomes a  professor of aspiring astronauts, 
helping them navigate their fears and  concerns.  Every congregation, no 
matter the size or budget, can give  something back.  We don’t exist in a 
vacuum.  When we refuse to give  back, we refuse to participate in the cycle of 
life.   Our stingness  will come back to haunt us.  One small congregation I 
know of is so  concerned about its own survival that it prefers to hoard 
its sizeable bank  account rather than share it with those in need now.  
Stinginess does not  inspire faith, deliver hope, or bring the Kingdom.  Give 
back or pay it  forward.  
    10. Thou shalt not coast.  When Watney returns, he  reveals the grit 
that got him through.   People ask him:  Did  you think you were going to die? 
 “Yes,” he says.  “Space is  unforgiving.  Things will go wrong.  You 
solve one problem.   Then the next.  Then the next.  And if you solve enough 
problems,  you will live.”  Does your church ignore its problems, confusing 
denial  with faith?  God does not do for us what we can do for ourselves.   
Coasting is not faith.  Coasting is laziness.
The lessons of faith are all around us.  Even in sci-fi movies.  So  don a 
pair of 3D glasses, and head to the theater.  Then, thou shalt  consider the 
10 Commandments of a Martian  Church.

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