Radical Centrism and Feminism
 
One issue that my short book about Saint-Simon and America did  not
deal with is the place of women in society.
 
What is really needed, to be sure, is a detailed examination of  
Saint-Simon's
ideas overall, that is, to the extent it is possible, something that  
outlines
the system we can abstract from his body of writings. A paper  focused
on America was not a good platform for that because it would have led
to major excursions into Europe, which, of course, was Saint-Simon's
primary interest as a Frenchman seeking to lead a French / European
social movement.
 
The system of S-S is multi-dimensional  -and complicated by the fact  that
although there is much consistency, about some issues he changed his  mind
over the course of years. So, for now, all I can say is that when time  
permits
I will try to get to these other questions. As a note, Emile Durkheim  wrote
an entire book on the subject, Socialism / aka  Socialism  and Saint-Simon.
And besides the texts my short book cited there are several others  like
a book by Dondo which has real merits even if it isn't all that  relevant
for America.
 
It is customary to classify Saint-Simon as a Socialist but he really  was
a socialist-capitalist, or even a socialist-capitalist-"other."
 
Unlike Right-wingers, I don't regard the word "socialism" as some kind  of
synonym for "evil."  Quite the opposite, at least if a clear  distinction
is made between Saint-Simon's version of socialism and all those
schools that are based on Marx. There is also Christian Socialism
and some people have classified S-S as a Christian Socialist,
which seems valid enough   -again, with some qualifiers.
 
Anyway, I much prefer to categorize him as a forerunner of  Radical  
Centrism
rather than anything else. He simply does not fit any other category
nearly as well.
 
 
What should be pointed out is that the first feminists anywhere were
either the Saint-Simonians or the Fourierists. This is somewhat murky since 
after about 1833 or 1834 there was a lot of back-and-forth between  the
groups and, as noted, the "left Saint-Simonians" borrowed a variety
of ideas from Fourier. But not everyone distinguishes between

'normative' Saint-Simonians and left Saint-Simonians.
 
Also worth mentioning is the fact that one of the features of  
Saint-Simonianism
that attracted John Stuart Mill to the group and to the ideas of  
Saint-Simon
was the (proto-) feminism in Saint-Simonian philosophy.
 
FYI, the main lines of differentiation are between Saint-Simon  himself,
his unified "school" which lasted until 1831 and into 1832, then the  split
in 1832 between Enfantin, who was "left," and Bazard, who was 
what I consider to have been normative. Bazard died within a year
after the split,  at which Olinde Rodrigues became the leader of
those Saint-Simonians who tried to remain most true to S-S.
Which is how I self identify in all of this. Enfantin was certainly
a colorful and creative character but, as I see it, he went
far off the deep end even if some (some) of his ideas
were very worthwhile.
 
Saint-Simon himself never said anything that can be construed as
seriously feminist even if he regarded women as much as equals
as anyone then alive. 
 
However, in the late 1820s and early 1830s a full blown  Saint-Simonian
feminism came into being, mostly a result of the Enfantin group
although there also was an independent women-led group as well
that even published a periodical for a while, La Femme  Libre.
For a good discussion of such matters see  Leslie Goldstein's
article, "Early Feminist Themes in French Utopian Socialism:
The St. Simonians and Fourier," in the January/March, 1982 issue
of the Journal of the History of Ideas.
 
But what about contemporary feminism?
 
There also are necessary distinctions in this area. In the late 19th  
century
there was what may be called "Christian+family feminism" and then 
there was the more militant wing of the Suffragette movement,
each of which are referred to as Suffragettes.
 
The "Women's movement," mark II,  dates to some time around the
publication of  The Feminine Mystique. It was not exclusively  a product
of Betty Friedan's book but that volume quickly became the de  facto 
manifesto
of the whole movement. 
 
Here we have a serious problem:  Betty Friedan had  been an active
member of the Communist Party. For details of this see the  extended
remarks in my incomplete book of 2015, When the Truth is Found 
to be Lies. The point being that a lot of what is in The Feminist  Mystique
is pure CP boilerplate that dates to the late 1940s and the 1950s.
And that stuff is  -never identified as Communist-  what most of  today's
feminists regard as what may be called 'standard issue feminism.'
Which, you don't need to guess, I regard as unmitigated crap.
 
For me the most important book about modern-era feminism is
Christina Hoff Sommers 1995 Who Stole Feminism?  She  made
it clear that we need to differentiate between classic feminism
(related to Christian+family suffragism) and what she calls
"gender feminism," viz, the Friedan / Communist-inspired stuff.
I regard this distinction as crucial:  Because the  gender feminist
outlook is based on systematic lying, is divisive, seeks to 
create animosity between men and women, seeks to subordinate
all questions of male/female human relationships to those of
power and money and status, and, in general, is full of sh*t.
 
One example: How many times do we need to hear the  claptrap
that 25% or more of women are raped in their lifetimes or
that one out of five college coeds are rape victims?  Sommers
totally debunks this false claim that is repeatedly debunked by
others. Meanwhile the gender feminists habitually ignore the
evidence and carry on as if no-one had debunked any of
their lies. For the record, the real statistic for college rape
is somewhere around 1%. If you allow for under-reporting
maybe the tally is more like 2% or 3 %, but that is the 
realistic maximum.
 
There is much, much more that could be discussed but this should
give you the idea; the whole gender feminist schtick is  basically garbage.
 
I should add, though, that what especially annoys me is the  anti-science
outlook of gender feminists. They detest sociobiology despite its
unarguable premises and the mountains of evidence that  sociobiologists
have published since the early 1970s when this new science began.
 
There still are unresolved questions,  but it seems established  beyond
all possibility of doubt to me that we are primates and share many
characteristics with our primate ancestors who once lived
in, say, 5 million BC. Where things are unclear is with respect
to exactly what lessons to learn given sometimes contrary evidence
by way of analogy to current primate species. Is "natural"
human morality better thought of in terms of gorillas, orangutans,
chimpanzees, or some other species, AND, given our evolution
since homo sapiens separated from a common ancestor long ago,
just how far can we go in claiming unique human moral  standards?
 
But what is totally clear is that  -in complete opposition to the  views of
gender feminists-  we can only go so far, and no further. We are  not
infinitely elastic. Some things don't work and if you try them
you will pay a tragic price. Or we all will pay a terrible price.
We need to know  -not just guess, and not because an ideology
says so-  exactly what is gender appropriate behavior and what is  not,
and stay within those boundaries. And accept the responsibilities
that are the necessary consequences. 
 
It seems to me  -and isn't it ironic?- that when all of said, what  is
best for us as a species and as individuals is something very much 
like Biblical morality, or, s'il vous plait, Buddhist morality  or
Zoroastrian morality, and so forth. Yet many Christians and
many Orthodox Jews deny evolution and also regard sociobiology
as an anathema.
 
At any rate, I have lived through experiences that tell me, with 
no room to doubt, that anyone who follows the path of gender feminism
will find themselves miserable, unhappy, and probably end up
in tragedy. Which is anything but my opinion alone, about which
more should be said at some other time.
 
I once knew an early president of NOW named Wilma Scott Heidi.
She was basically kicked aside when female homosexuals began
to assume dominant roles in the organization.
 
Wilma Scott, however, had an idea that seems good and true and
valid to me, regardless of the history of NOW, namely, that what
really needs to happen in the creation of a "human liberation  movement"
in which men and women are partners, each with distinctive roles to  play,
each with their own valid needs and each of which should assume
certain responsibilities in relationships with the opposite sex.
I don't recall that Wilma Scott had a name for this, but the  terminology
I have used since those years has been that of "gender  partnership,"
where men and women clearly recognize how essential each sex
is to the other and how important it is that we get this right.
Because our future depends on it.
 
"Human liberation" in this sense should be one of the prime tasks 
of Radical Centrism.
 
 
Billy R.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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