Interesting. 

His alt-center sounds more like my alt-left. I wonder what he would consider 
the alt left.

Or maybe he really is the alt left, and what we think of as normal leftists is 
what he calls the center.

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> On Feb 24, 2017, at 11:28, BILROJ via Centroids: The Center of the Radical 
> Centrist Community <[email protected]> wrote:
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>  
> it's all one thing
> Blog attributed  to Will Shetterly
>  
> Saturday, December 3, 2016
> The alt-center, censorship, and the weaponizing of poverty: a scattershot note
> 1
> If your response to a Twitter tiff is to go running to someone's employer, 
> you view poverty as a weapon and are a terrible person.
> — Emily Robinson29🎅🏻 (@See_Em_Play) November 26, 2016
> I love this quote. I have seen too many examples of people online trying to 
> silence their opponents with financial threats instead of simply refuting 
> them.
> 
> Perhaps the best thing I can point to about Trump's election is fewer people 
> who claim to be on the left are mocking "freeze peach". It's a little sad 
> that the ACLU's support is divided between people who believe in free speech 
> and people who would like to censor their opponents but are afraid they're in 
> danger of losing that fight, but I suspect that's always been the case. 
> During McCarthyism, the left strongly supported free speech. During the rise 
> of left-identitarianism, the right did. What we'll have under Trump's gonzo 
> conservatism, I can't guess, but I know we'll need the ACLU at least as much 
> as we always have.
> 
> 2
> 
> I don't know who coined "alt-center", but I love it for at least two reasons:
> 
> 1. The people who fall under labels like "social justice warrior" and my 
> previous alternative, "censorial left-identitarian" are not leftist in any 
> meaningful way. They tend to support Clinton's right-of-center neoliberalism. 
> They are extremely conformist and they love trying to get people banned or 
> fired for expressing ideas they disagree with. Their solution to the problems 
> of racism and sexism is not to redistribute the wealth to end economic 
> inequality but to advocate the ancient solution of education, which for all 
> its virtues only helps the poor people who're lucky enough to have the 
> resources that will let them graduate with honors. The US's two-party system 
> makes these angry identitarians think they are leftists because they're to 
> the left of the far right, but the fact that their champion in the current 
> election, Hillary Clinton, won many wealthy neighborhoods that had 
> traditionally voted for Republicans should show that their politics are 
> consistent with those of moderate Republicans.
> 
> 2. What distinguishes the alt-center from the center is what distinguishes 
> the alt-right from the right: they're loud and obsessed with social identity. 
> "Alt" is shorthand for smug, furious, and superficial—both the alt-right and 
> the alt-center are content with a skin-deep analysis of injustice that 
> ignores capitalism.
> 
> Yes, there are self-proclaimed socialists like Sady Doyle whose 
> identitarianism made them support Clinton's neoliberalism. Their existence 
> does not mean we need a category for them like alt-left or one I had liked, 
> ctrl-left. The internet has countless videos of animals who seem to think 
> they're a different animal—but just as a prancing cat is not a horse, someone 
> who supports a neoliberal is not a socialist.
> 
> Now, I'm not saying alt-center is the perfect name for the loud group of 
> people who've taken the religious concept of social justice and turned it 
> into something that would embarrass social justice workers like Dorothy Day 
> and Dom Hélder Câmara, but it's the best I've found. If ever the alt-center 
> adopts a name, I'll happily use it—I believe you should call people what they 
> like to be called so long as that name does not create confusion. Until they 
> adopt a name, I'll just follow along with what works best at the time. Right 
> now, that's "alt-center".
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