Reason.com
 
 
Nassim Taleb Talks Antifragile,  Libertarianism, and Capitalism's Genius 
for Failure
The best-selling author of The Black Swan talks about his new  book and why 
most public intellectuals aren't worth a damn.
_Nick  Gillespie_ (http://reason.com/people/nick-gillespie/all)  & _Jim 
Epstein_ (http://reason.com/people/jim-epstein/all)  | January 20, 2013
 
 
 
Taleb drew wide attention after the 2007 publication  of _The Black Swan: 
The Impact of the Highly  Improbable_ 
(http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/081297381X/reasonmagazineA/) , which 
warned that  our institutions and risk 
models aren't designed to account for rare and  catastrophic events. Among 
other things, the book cautioned that oversized and  unaccountable banks 
using flawed investment models could bring on a financial  crisis. He also 
warned that the government-sanctioned housing finance agencies,  Fannie Mae and 
Freddie Mac, were sitting on a "barrel of dynamite." 
One year after The  Black Swan was published, a  global banking crisis was 
brought on by the very factors he  identified. 

Taleb doesn't identify as a libertarian, but he often  sounds like one. He 
has argued that we need to build a society where major  actors have "skin in 
the game" and our public intellectuals can bloviate without  subjecting the 
rest of us to the consequences of their bad ideas. He _supported Ron Paul_ 
(http://www.businessinsider.com/nassim-taleb-ron-paul-2012-1)  in the  2012 
presidential election and has cited the libertarian economist Friedrich  
Hayek as an influence. 
Taleb has called New  York Times columnist Thomas  Friedman "vile and 
harmful" and coined the phrase the "Stiglitz Syndrome" after  Nobel-prize 
winning 
economist Joseph Stiglitz, which refers to the phenomenon of  public 
intellectuals being held utterly unaccountable for their bad predictions.  Paul 
Krugman and Paul Samuelson are among Taleb's other Nobel laureate bĂȘte  
noires. 
Taleb's new book is _Antifragile: Things that Gain with  Disorder_ 
(http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0083DJWGO/reasonmagazineA/) , which 
argues 
that in  order to create robust institutions we must allow them to build 
resilience  through adversity. The essence of capitalism, he argues, is 
encouraging failure,  not rewarding success. 
Reason's  Nick Gillespie sat down with Taleb for a wide-ranging discussion 
about why debt  leads to fragility (5:16); the importance of "skin in the 
game" to a properly  functioning financial system (10:45); why large banks 
should be nationalized  (21:47); why technology won't rule the future (24:20); 
the value of studying the  classics (26:09); his intellectual adversaries 
(33:30); why removing things is  often the best way to solve problems (36:50); 
his intellectual influences  (39:10); why capitalism is more about 
disincentives than incentives (43:10); why  large, centralized states are prone 
to 
fail (44:50); his libertarianism (47:30);  and why he'll never take writing 
advice from "some academic at Cambridge who  sold 2,200 copies" (51:49).

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