Billy,

 

Excellent reflection on evil.  Indeed, a world with out evil is impossible, 
thanks to the fall in the Garden.  Nevertheless, there is a lot of good in the 
world.  I like to think that the balance is shifting in favor of good, over 
time.  But the darkness that has accompanied the current administration makes 
me believe that there is a setback.  Hopefully, it is short term.

 

Chris 

 

From: radicalcentrism@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:radicalcentrism@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Billy Rojas
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 11:38 PM
To: radicalcentrism@googlegroups.com
Cc: radicalcentrism@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RC] Amazon Health >>> Reflactions on Reality

 

 

Reflections on Reality

 

It must be nice to live in a world where evil never needs to be confronted and 
defeated.

Alas, that is not the world I live in.

 

To be sure, like Chris, I moved to a location where, in fact, confronting evil

is not an obvious everyday need.  Eugene is, in many ways, an idyllic 
university town.

Crime here is minimal;  murders are rare and those that get reported usually

are committed by outcasts  -lower class whites who happen to be alcoholics

or druggies, blacks who somehow gravitated to this neck of the woods and

who have never left behind their inner city values, etc.  

 

The last thing I need is worry about are street hoodlums or ethnic gangs or 
loan sharks

who prey on unfortunates and cause trouble generally. That is, the kind of stuff

which large cities are often identified with hardly exist hereabouts.

Whole categories of evil simply do not need to be confronted in Eugene.

For all practical purposes such evil does not exist in this middle class 
'utopia.'

 

This seems to be true in parts of California also, like most of Silicon Valley.

This probably is the case, as well, in the nicer parts of Cleveland.  But allow 
me

to play "devil's advocate."

 

A world with no evil in it is pure illusion; it simply cannot exist. Why?

Because Satan exists, because we are unable to escape the reach of sin,

because we are imperfect, because we are a suit of clothes removed from

the law of the jungle and human immorality.  This is too cynical, of course,

but to set the stage, to paint a mood, to make a point.

 

To me we are always like Syria in 2010, the year before the "Arab Spring"

and the start of the civil war that has torn that country apart and resulted in

countless dispossessed people, hundred of thousands killed,  widespread 
lawlessness,

rival armies fighting it out. Substitute the Balkans in the 1990s, parts of 
India today,

East Africa a decade ago, or turf wars in contemporary LA or Chicago.

 

Which is a long way to say that I greatly admire something of the work

everyone in the group is doing. For example, in a parallel world I'd drive

to Montana and look up Chris; it is obvious that he is on to something

and, for one, I'd love to learn what he is learning from a Navy Seal.

Yet I have known a couple of Army "Pathfinders" and they aren't

too different than Seals and this tells me that what Chris has

already found is an intersection of his world with the world

of someone who knows evil up close and personal.

 

 

So the question for everyone is simple:   Where, in your calculus, does evil 
fit in?

In some cases I don't see any allowance at all for the reality of evil

and how to deal with it.

 

And what IS evil?  For sure it is far more than street gangs or violent 
political dictators

or even ideologies like Nazism or various forms of Communism.

 

For the life of me I am at a loss about how anyone here defines evil.

 

One thing, a good definition really would require a serious essay

at least 10 pages long.  At a minimum if would need to be 100 items long.

 

To use just one example, sadism is an evil. Yet libertarians insist that it is 
not

as long as the participants agree to  to torture and humiliate each other 
willingly.

To me that kind of outlook, finding justifications for evil, is another evil.

But so is not doing anything that matters when confronted with evil

an evil itself.  

 

You can see how knotted up the problem of evil actually is. It is also 
pervasive,

it is everywhere, even in Eugene or Montana. Yet who has any kind of

thorough-going philosophy of identifying and dealing with evil?

 

During bad days,  all too many days lately given my medical woes,

I think that no-one here has any concept of evil at all. As if RC

was a philosophy conceived by Frank Baum while he was

creating the story of Dorothy and the land of Oz.

 

The point about Syria is that one day a family was concerned about

their kids doing well in school, the next day the school was blown

to bits in an artillery barrage. All of a sudden the family's priorities

were 'revolutionized.'

 

This applies just as well to someone living on a ranch in cowboy country

or a senior citizen who loves to grumble about philosophical issues

or a younger man doing his best to climb the ladder of success.

 

....a parable.

 

 

from

Rev. Billy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  _____  

From: radicalcentrism@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:radicalcentrism@googlegroups.com>  <radicalcentrism@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:radicalcentrism@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of Chris Hahn 
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To: RadicalCentrism@googlegroups.com <mailto:RadicalCentrism@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: [RC] Amazon Health 

 

I heard a good article on this today.  I am with you, I wouldn’t bet against 
those guys.

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Subject: [RC] Amazon Health

Dang. I’m not one to bet against both Bezos and Buffet. 

Politics was disrupted by the Internet in 2016. Looks like health care will be 
in 2020 (I had it the other way around). 

My third prediction of disrupting Wall Street in 2024 still looks good, Though. 


“Amazon, Berkshire Hathaway and JPMorgan Chase & Co. announced today that they 
are partnering on ways to address healthcare for their U.S. employees, with the 
aim of improving employee satisfaction and reducing costs. The three companies, 
which bring their scale and complementary expertise to this long-term effort, 
will pursue this objective through an independent company that is free from 
profit-making incentives and constraints.”
—Amazon Health
(Stratechery by Ben Thompson)

https://stratechery.com/2018/amazon-health/


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