Ernie:

Thanks for the Bergmann material.


To be sure, as in many economic proposals, there are unrecognized problems.

In Detroit it may make sense to plant roof gardens, but in Arizona?  Not so much

because water is a rationed commodity. and in the desert evaporation rates

are what they are, instant evaporation of all exposed water.


And, while I very much like the idea of sweat equity to build or maintain one's 
housing,

what about the sometimes widely differing capabilities of the people involved.  
Some people

can do a lot, other people are de facto spastics and cannot do much of 
anything. It isn't enough

that they all do something because someone with  the skill level of a ten year 
old

cannot add value equal to someone who is a professional  -a welder or house 
framer

or electrician or plumber.


That is, I like Bergmann's approach but, IMHO, he reminds me of the Quivira 
people,

he leaves out some important stuff because of his values.



Still, I get his point and think it could work for some people in some places.


I'd say the same for my "Indian economics" idea, some people, some places.


What I'd add is that the concept of low cost auto repairs at large scale

ought to be a winner.  Very easy to conceive of a "WalMart" style business

where auto repair costs are cut to somewhere in the  3/4ths of current costs

range and large numbers of people switch to  "AutoMart"    -and a new WalMart

is born.


Mind you, this refers to full service, not just body work or lube jobs,

it can mean electronic systems maintenance and repair, air bag repair,

window replacement,  upholstery, tires, GPS, and God knows what else.

For repairs that take a few days there could be loaner cars, and the business

might sell insurance as well. Everything at a price that beats usual retail

by 25% or thereabouts.


I think this could become really  big.



What else might work well would be discount dentistry. Same day service,

walk-ins welcome for some procedures..  Its just that it would not be as big as

auto service and parts sales.


Which leads to a question:  Why has Wal Mart had few competitors in

the deep discount merchandising business?   This does not mean the same range

of products Walmart sells, but what it has missed, like auto repair and 
dentistry.



Actually there was one business that was a mini WalMart, Staples for office 
supplies.

But with so much now going into computers that market is gradually drying up. 
You can say

something similar for home products, Re: Lowes and so forth, although there

the issue is the seasonal nature of the home products business and the 
"seasonal"nature

of the economy such that when times are tough people defer home improvements.

But they can't defer auto repairs and can only defer dental work for a limited 
time.


Enough for now on this sort of subject. I am way too busy with other matters.


Billy







________________________________
From: Dr. Ernie Prabhakar <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 8:06 PM
To: Centroids Discussions
Cc: Billy Rojas
Subject: Frithjof Bergmann Re: [RC] Indian Economics

Hi Billy,

> On Oct 29, 2018, at 8:52 AM, Billy Rojas <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>
> There is no plan to maximize profits, the opposite is the case, profits would 
> be
> kept within limits.  The whole idea is to re-think capitalism for community 
> benefit
> -which means the people in that community, NOT absentee financial interests.
>


I think there is clearly a future for locality-based cooperative work.

Have you read any Frithjof Bergmann?

His New Work / New Culture is the clearest and most plausible vision of the 
future of work that I’ve seen.

https://www.context.org/iclib/ic37/bergmann/

Even more impressive, he actually quit being a full-time philosopher and moved 
to downtown Detroit to help them start building out that vision…

— Ernie P.



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