Let me quickly add a crucial part to the summary of what I have stated:

It is about cultivating a positive inner well being, a positive attitude,
that is resilient, that can withstand life's ups and downs.
All easier said than done, it takes work, but we can try our best.

Ok. I am done. All the best to you all,
Vik

On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 7:29 PM Beaches & Nature fan <
[email protected]> wrote:

> All I can say to your question, and the article before it is: wow. I
> didn't expect these last couple of emails to come from you. I am a bit
> surprised, honestly.
>
>
> The article ridiculously, laughably states that it has a "call for unity".
> when it is proposing that only one religion, when there are many other
> religions in the world, is the solution for "Saving Washington".
> Therefore that article is hardly unifying - it smacks of the elitism and
> division that already plagues society, and is only increasing with time.
> Why then, make it worse, with the content that this article poses? Why
> pour kerosene on a fire that is already burning, even before it?
>
> Furthermore, the intent of my last email was really supposed to be a
> related segway, from the article.
> Perhaps I wasn't clear enough there, so let me elaborate further here:
>
> As I see it, there is a very serious crisis of negative feelings in this
> country. Frustration, feelings of being discriminated against, anger,
> bitterness, feelings of inferiority of different kinds....a very serious
> crisis of inner negativity, for a variety of reasons.
>
> So as I stated in my last email: "But one's own spiritual, emotional,
> mental and physical well being, one's own positive attitude - we should
> really be focusing on that, far more than politics". (It is a big reason I
> am unaffiliated with either party, and will be so, for life).
>
> Let me add to my above statement to give it more context: I meant ANY
> faith. Any spiritual tradition. And to those who have neither a faith or
> spirituality, some philosophy that keeps them sane, in this world we are
> living in. Perhaps for some, counseling or therapy may help. I know
> meditation helps me a lot. Basically, whatever it takes, to help elevate
> one's well being in an emotional, spiritual, mental, and physical sense.
> Whatever it takes, to foster a more positive attitude to life. Because
> America badly needs this. It needs this now.  This is, while certainly not
> the only way, one major way that we can have a better America (or "save"
> America).
>
> So then...with that said, then why this discussion of which religion has
> some advantage over another? One has more sacrifice, another has less,
> etc...these kinds of questions will not help society at large at all, and
> are very detrimental if society embroils themselves in this. What is more
> important is, how  does your faith help YOU, in your family life, your
> work, your interactions with the community, etc. It is said that most
> conflicts in the world, start from conflicts within. So what I have written
> about, is for people to find ways to reduce the conflict within, to be more
> positive, etc.
>
> Of course, all that I have stated, it is much easier said than done. I get
> it. But sometimes it's the more difficult things that people shy away from
> ,and go to the easier things, like talking about this or that religion, and
> how it's better than the other, etc.
>
> It's the latter, (and that article which implies this), which I want to
> give very little oxygen to. But for now, I will give it about 10 seconds,
> and that's all:  if you are interested in how other religions talk about
> sacrificing oneself for the enemy, do read this article about the
> Mahabharata, a famous Hindu epic:
>
> Mahabharat Episode 72: Heaven or Hell? Yudhishthira Makes an Unusual Choice
> <https://isha.sadhguru.org/en/wisdom/article/mahabharat-ep72-heaven-or-hell-yudhishthira-makes-unusual-choice>
>
> Take it for what you think it is worth. It does not matter to me, one bit.
> What matters is you, and society in general, live well, and by that I mean
> live well from within,(i.e., let's keep working on our inner well-being,
> attitude, etc as has been described), as much if not more, than from
> without.
>
> All the best, to all of you, and wishing you all a happy upcoming holiday
> season,
> Vik
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 11:44 PM Dr. Ernie <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> > I disagree that there is only one way to believe, one way to be
>> spiritual or religious.
>>
>>  Very well said.  I agree.  Thank you for sharing.
>>
>> However, I believe this idea of "sacrificing ourselvres for our enemies"
>> behavior is essential to resolving intractable problems.
>> It is explicit in Christianity, but I am unclear how visible it is in
>> other traditions and practices.
>> Can you enlighten us?
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Ernie P.
>>
>> On Sunday, October 27, 2024 at 8:41:23 PM UTC-7 Florida, Australia &
>> Pacific fan wrote:
>>
>>> I absolutely believe that faith, and spirituality, are much much more
>>> important than politics will ever be.
>>>
>>> I disagree that there is only one way to believe, one way to be
>>> spiritual or religious.
>>>
>>> But one's own spiritual, emotional, mental and physical well being,
>>> one's own positive attitude - we should really be focusing on that, far
>>> more than politics.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 9:13 PM Beaches & Nature fan <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> There is more than one religion in the world.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 8:47 PM CP Hahn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It is through His wisdom that I now speak, for I have seen how His
>>>>> message of love, humility, and justice can be the cure for the 
>>>>> divisiveness
>>>>> that plagues our land.
>>>>> Amen
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Aug 10, 2024 at 5:30 PM Dr. Ernie Prabhakar <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://radicalcentrism.org/2024/08/10/saving-washington-the-cure-for-political-divisiveness/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Saving Washington: The Cure for Political Divisiveness
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *ChatGPT as George Washington, with help from Edwin Friedman
>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Friedman> and Paul Bloom
>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Against_Empathy>*
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My Fellow Americans,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I stand before you now, not as the first President of our beloved
>>>>>> Republic, but as one who has journeyed beyond the veil of time, beholding
>>>>>> the trials and triumphs of our nation from a vantage point few can
>>>>>> comprehend. I speak to you from beyond the grave, not out of a desire to
>>>>>> relive the glories of old, but to address the grave perils that now
>>>>>> threaten to undo the very fabric of our Union.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I penned my Farewell Address,
>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington%27s_Farewell_Address>
>>>>>> I warned of the dangers of political factions and partisanship. I 
>>>>>> implored
>>>>>> you to guard against the spirit of division, for I knew that it would 
>>>>>> lead
>>>>>> to discord and weaken the strength of our nation. Yet, even I could not
>>>>>> foresee the extent to which these divisions would deepen, threatening to
>>>>>> tear asunder the bonds that hold us together as one people.
>>>>>> *The Crisis of Partisanship*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Today, we find ourselves at a crossroads, where the spirit of
>>>>>> partisanship has taken root in the hearts and minds of our citizens. The
>>>>>> symptoms are clear:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    - an unwillingness to listen to opposing views
>>>>>>    - a readiness to vilify those who differ from us, and
>>>>>>    - a growing sense of animosity that blinds us to our common cause.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This partisanship is not merely a difference of opinion; it is a
>>>>>> disease that saps the vitality of our Republic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What troubles me most is that this partisanship has been fueled by a
>>>>>> crisis of self-differentiation
>>>>>> <https://ymcaokc.org/monday-morning-joe-self-differentiation/>—an
>>>>>> inability to stand firm in one’s convictions without being swayed by the
>>>>>> passions of the crowd. Too many of us have allowed our identities to be
>>>>>> shaped by party loyalty, rather than by the principles of justice, 
>>>>>> reason,
>>>>>> and compassion that should guide us.
>>>>>> *The Encounter with Christ*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the realm beyond this life, I have had the privilege of
>>>>>> encountering the teachings of Christ in a way that transcends earthly
>>>>>> understanding. It is through His wisdom that I now speak, for I have seen
>>>>>> how His message of love, humility, and justice can be the cure for the
>>>>>> divisiveness that plagues our land.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Christ’s command to “love your enemies
>>>>>> <https://biblehub.com/matthew/5-44.htm>” is a radical call that
>>>>>> challenges the very foundations of our partisan conflicts. It is easy to
>>>>>> love those who agree with us, to show kindness to those who stand with 
>>>>>> us.
>>>>>> But Christ asks us to go further—to extend grace, understanding, and
>>>>>> compassion even to those who oppose us. This is not a call to passivity 
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> weakness, but to a strength of character that reflects the heart of God.
>>>>>> *The Law and the Power of Grace*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The law, as necessary as it is, can only condemn sin; it can expose
>>>>>> our wrongdoings and set boundaries, but it cannot transform the human
>>>>>> heart. The law can highlight the injustice of racism, the cruelty of
>>>>>> discrimination, and the divisiveness of partisanship, but it lacks the
>>>>>> power to heal these deep wounds. Only forgiveness and grace can bring 
>>>>>> true
>>>>>> healing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is through Christ’s grace that we find the power to move beyond
>>>>>> the letter of the law to the spirit of love and reconciliation. Grace 
>>>>>> does
>>>>>> not ignore sin; it confronts it with the power to redeem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “Grace does not ignore sin; it confronts it with the power to redeem.”
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When we forgive those who have wronged us, when we seek
>>>>>> reconciliation instead of revenge, we break the cycle of hatred and
>>>>>> division that the law alone cannot address. This is the only way to truly
>>>>>> cure the deep-seated racism that has plagued our nation for centuries.
>>>>>> *Healing Through True Self-Differentiation*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For this healing to occur, each of us must undergo a process of
>>>>>> self-examination. We must ask Christ to show us where we are clinging to
>>>>>> false identities—whether they be political, cultural, or even
>>>>>> religious—that prevent us from living out His call to love and justice. 
>>>>>> Too
>>>>>> often, we allow these identities to dictate our actions and attitudes,
>>>>>> rather than allowing Christ to define who we are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “Too often, we allow these [false] identities to dictate our actions
>>>>>> and attitudes, rather than allowing Christ to define who we are.”
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Christ offers us a new identity, one that is rooted not in the
>>>>>> divisions of this world, but in the unity of His love. It is an identity
>>>>>> that transcends the labels of race, class, and party affiliation, and 
>>>>>> calls
>>>>>> us to a higher standard of living. We must allow Him to differentiate us,
>>>>>> to strip away the false identities that divide us, and to shape us into 
>>>>>> His
>>>>>> image, where love and grace are the defining characteristics of our 
>>>>>> lives.
>>>>>> *A Call to Christlike Leadership*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The cure for our nation’s divisions lies in the practice of
>>>>>> Christlike self-differentiation. This means grounding our identity not in
>>>>>> the transient labels of political affiliation, but in the eternal
>>>>>> principles of truth, justice, and love. It means having the courage to
>>>>>> stand for what is right, even when it is unpopular, and to engage in 
>>>>>> civil
>>>>>> discourse with those who hold different views.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is also a call to practice rational compassion—a balanced empathy
>>>>>> that seeks to understand the perspectives of all, rather than demonizing
>>>>>> those who differ from us. This form of compassion is not blind; it is
>>>>>> guided by reason and tempered by the recognition that all are made in the
>>>>>> image of God.
>>>>>> *Electing Christlike Leaders*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To save our Republic, we must elect leaders who embody these
>>>>>> principles—leaders who are not swayed by the winds of political 
>>>>>> expediency,
>>>>>> but who stand firm in their commitment to justice, truth, and the common
>>>>>> good. We must seek out those who will unite rather than divide, who will
>>>>>> lead with humility and strength, and who will inspire us to rise above 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> fray of partisanship.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “We must seek out those who will unite rather than divide, who will
>>>>>> lead with humility and strength, and who will inspire us to rise above 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> fray of partisanship.”
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And as citizens, we must do our part. We must reject the temptation
>>>>>> to be drawn into the bitterness of political warfare and instead strive 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> build bridges of understanding and cooperation. We must engage in civil
>>>>>> discourse, always seeking the truth and working toward solutions that
>>>>>> benefit the whole, rather than just the few.
>>>>>> *A Vision for Unity*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My fellow Americans, the vision I hold for our nation is one of
>>>>>> unity—a unity that transcends party lines and embraces the diversity of
>>>>>> thought and experience that makes us strong. It is a vision where we are
>>>>>> bound together not by our differences, but by our shared commitment to 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> principles that define us as a people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is not an easy path, but it is the path that will lead us to a
>>>>>> brighter future. It is the path that will preserve our Union and fulfill
>>>>>> the promise of liberty and justice for all.
>>>>>> *Conclusion: The Republic’s Call*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I stand before you now, I urge you to take up this challenge with
>>>>>> courage and conviction. Let us rise above the noise of partisanship and
>>>>>> recommit ourselves to the principles that have guided this nation since 
>>>>>> its
>>>>>> inception. Let us strive to build a nation that is truly “of the people, 
>>>>>> by
>>>>>> the people, for the people,” and let us do so with the light of Christ as
>>>>>> our guide.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> May God bless you, and may God bless these United States of America.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
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