Nazgul;556417 Wrote: 
> Actually I wasn't directing the specifics at you, but at the cadre of
> folks trying to quell discussion here...

The crux of the matter is the phrase "quell discussion".  My readings
of the forums (the Radio forum in particular) isn't that the "senior
members" are trying to "quell discussion", but rather to encourage
posters to describe their problems in a reasonably calm fashion so that
the community (all members) can respond if there is potentially helpful
info out there.

Nobody (pretty much) is denying that a significant number of people
have had and are continuing to have problems with the Radio, and that
by and large those problems seem to be related to immature S/W, both on
the Radio and on MySB.com.  I think that most people have been through
enough new tech angst to feel a good deal of sympathy for those who are
having issues.

It is also clear that fixing the problems permanently lies completely
in the hands of Logitech.  It also appears clear that Logitech doesn't
have sufficient S/W resources devoted to the Squeezebox line right now.
Maybe there's a good reason for that, but for whatever reasons, the
community is mostly in the dark about it.  Sad but true.

But, it is also evident that running a local SBS and using the Radio
through that local SBS seems to solve most of the problems.  That
doesn't mean that anybody is wrong for not using a local SBS - Logitech
absolutely markets the Radio as a standalone box that doesn't need a
local server.  However, the Radio indubitably works a lot better right
now with a local SBS.  I note simply as one data point that I have two
Radios that work just fine, but I use them via a local SBS and mostly
listen to my own library.

So, when people complain about problems with the Radio in the MySB.com
environment, it is proper for others to tell them "if you run a local
SBS, you can eliminate a lot of the problems you're having."  If
someone having problem can't/won't run a local SBS, well, that's
unfortunate, but it was still worthwhile to let them know that there is
a workaround for at least some of the problems, and maybe somebody else
will benefit from knowing that.

The issue is when one uses these forums to simply vent one's spleen,
with no real desire to seek any help at all.  In that case, it is
completely appropriate for others to point out that the ranter is just
ranting, and that it is an abuse of the forums.  That is NOT "quelling
discussion", it is telling somebody who is acting childish to grow up
and play a bit more nicely if they want to be welcome here.  That's a
completely appropriate course of action for a community to take.

Be as vituperative with Logitech as you wish, but don't pollute these
forums with nothing but bile - it's not fair to the rest of us.  Temper
your indignation with some perspective.

On the other hand, what would life be like without people constantly
erecting windmills to tilt at? :-/


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