On 20 Dec 2005, at 17:45 , Julian 'Julik' Tarkhanov wrote:
On 20-dec-2005, at 9:04, Thijs Van Der Vossen wrote:
On 19 Dec 2005, at 22:10 , Jean-Christophe Michel wrote:
Julian 'Julik' Tarkhanov a écrit :
What do you think? Please note that I am heavily biased because every
single piece of software I used since I was 12 had problems with
Russian letters, and Rails is no exception 10 years later, on a fully
Unicode-capable Unix box. If the core language has to be bent INTO
shape (I call this "into" rather than "out of") to make things Just
Work, why not?

+1
As a European I would be pleased to have an error free unicode layer :-)
I left Php hoping ruby was more advanced on this side...

In Ruby you can store utf-8 encoded text in strings, use regexes on utf-8 encoded strings and convert between different encodings using the iconv library. If I'm not mistaken, this is basically the same as what you can do in PHP.

If you _need_ a dynamic language with a true and tested Unicode String type _right now_ you might want to take a look at Python. ;-)

Thijs, it sucks in Python too, because it's explicit and optional. Please read my message more thoroughly.

Hi Julian, I _did_ read your message thoroughly and I think the changes you propose are an excellent way to fix the problem in Rails.

I don't think I fully agree with you on the apocalypse part, but I do see the problem and I do think this your proposal is the best way to make it 'just work' in Rails without breaking anything.

Kind regards,
Thijs

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