Rspec / cucumber is a good setup. It's what I'm running with on the project
I'm on at the moment, and it works really well in practice. In addition,
we've also got rcov set to fail the built if rspec coverage drops below
100%, and some pretty strict roodi and simian settings for checking code
complexity / duplication. At first it was a bit weird working with the setup
that tight, but this particular project was run that way since greenfield,
and has managed to keep all that hanging together. The result is pretty
pleasant to work with, without being too much of a drag (at least once you
get used to it).
My usual workflow is to write a feature in cucumber first to exercise the
code at the high level. Then write it so cucumber passes. Then rspec it
after I've written the code. Some would say I'm doing the rspec backwards,
but I find it too restricting to stub/mock interfaces to do TDD with rspec
as I'm writing the code. I find it slows me down, and *decreases* quality
because refactoring gets harder if I'm having the nail down exactly how the
code works with specs while it's still fluid and undefined. BDD fits really
naturally though.

Thanks for the video link as well :D

cheers
Julian Doherty

2009/6/4 Torm3nt <[email protected]>

>
> Thank you very much enrico, this presentation is fantastic!
>
>
> --
> Kirk Bushell
> http://www.kirkbushell.com
> Follow me: http://twitter.com/kirkbushell
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Enrico Teotti <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > I found this talk very interesting:
> >
> http://mwrc2009.confreaks.com/14-mar-2009-15-00-bdd-with-cucumber-ben-mabey.html
> > towards the end (if I recall correctly) he makes a few considerations
> > about how much Rspec to use when you have Cucumbers in place.
> > HTH,
> > Enrico
> >
> > 2009/6/3 Dr Nic Williams <[email protected]>:
> >>
> >> This is what we use.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> Nic
> >>
> >> Mocra - http://mocra.com
> >> Blog - http://drnicwilliams.com
> >>
> >> On 03/06/2009, at 4:18 PM, Torm3nt <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Hey all,
> >>>
> >>> Just curious of people's opinions of the types of automated testing
> >>> they do, and where exactly they draw the line. For a new project I'm
> >>> working on, am contemplating using RSpec for the unit-testing of
> >>> models, controllers and views, and using Cucumber or Webrat for the
> >>> integrated tests. Is this overkill? What setups do others use for
> >>> total test coverage?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> --
> >>> Kirk Bushell
> >>> http://www.kirkbushell.com
> >>> Follow me: http://twitter.com/kirkbushell
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Enrico Teotti
> > IT consultant, accessible web sites and web applications
> > Sydney, NSW, Australia
> > [email protected]
> > mobile (IT) +393286590765
> > mobile (AU) +00610416748450
> >
> > http://www.teotti.com
> >
> > >
> >
>
> >
>

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