On 29/07/2009, at 9:45 AM, Joseph Pearson wrote:

> Stuck with awkward languages, copycat
> frameworks, dubious projects and secure, well-paid jobs. On average
> they're earning two or three times what we are, for work half as
> dangerous.

Do you have a reference to this outlandish comment? Two to three
times? Ah, no.


On 29/07/2009, at 10:00 AM, Andrew Snow wrote:

> For the rest of us, I don't think too many people are going to be happy
> with the 30+ second startup time of the lumbering JVM every time they
> want to run their tests...

Autotest; dude, autotest. I can't wait the 5 seconds that it takes the
stack to initialize.


On Jul 29, 10:42 am, Josh Price <[email protected]> wrote:
> Believe me, I don't think you have to worry about community dilution  
> either.  We won't be seeing any exodus of "average enterprise  
> developers" into the Ruby community any time soon - they simply don't  
> care. But we might expose a few good eggs to the beauty of Ruby and  
> the awesomeness of the community along the way.

Not forgetting that Ruby already has many "average developers" without
any influx from "the enterprise" - Don't be a fear monger!

REE, Rubinius and JRuby all offer an alternative, that alone is a good
thing.

I wonder if anyone has ever stopped to think that Ruby might not have
a place in an enterprise development space?

Use the right tool for the job, sometimes say no to jobs.
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