On 29/07/2009, at 12:05 PM, Glen Maddern wrote:

> But, I also think that if 'using Ruby' is the only differentiating  
> feature about your web development company then you're in other  
> sorts of trouble. To me, that's starting down the closed-source road  
> - I don't want my competitor to have the same tools I've got/helped  
> develop. The goal should be to be winning jobs and satisfying  
> customers with the quality of your work, regardless of the tools you  
> or your competitors use.
>
> But then, I'm not currently running a web dev shop so I understand  
> the commercial reality might preclude a lot of people from chasing  
> this goal.

I know I'm being noisy, so I'm going to pipe down now. But Glen, on  
this point: one shouldn't be ashamed right now to see using Ruby --  
and Rails, and related technologies -- as a competitive advantage.  
Because of what they let you do, and do quickly and well. Personally I  
would be deeply ashamed (and quickly out of business) if it were our  
only selling point. I'd also be ashamed if I took without giving back.

It is definitely about quality, about what you do to ensure it and  
promote it.

> One final point, in my experience, the people making Ruby or  
> anything else that's 'cool' available to the Enterprise generally  
> work in/for one. Like any embarrassing topic, the long-suffering,  
> overpaid and unchallenged friend is actually themselves. It's why I  
> hack on Scala in the evenings and scheme up ways to get it used in  
> the Java shop where I work.

Point well made.

- J

PS: Lachlan nailed it too.

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