A note on fakeweb usage - ensure that it will throw an exception when
your application attempts to call to a remote serivce.
Another technique that I employed before some international flight
this year was to write openuri-recorder (net/http would've been more
useful) - Anyway, it is a nice hack that shells out to curl, records
the response and headers and returns the original result..

Everything is kept in a manifest file, so you can later match the url
to the response.
This seemed to make it a bit easier to get HTTP coverage much more
quickly - perhaps something like this could work for you too?


On Oct 2, 3:33 pm, Mark Ratjens <[email protected]> wrote:
> G'day James,
>
> My view on this is that you have one application with a role-based layer
> wrapped around it that allows you surface just those parts of the app that
> apply to a single role (in your case, the roles are customer and staff ...
> member). If you hook the role-based layer to user sign-on the single app can
> pretty easily figure out what to surface for each user. Put an admin
> function on the role-based data and you get the flexibility of adding roles
> and migrating functionality between them without any recoding. And then, of
> course, you're back to enjoying ActiveRecord.
>
> I've implemented this so many times that it's an enduring architectural
> pattern in almost all of my apps. For example, mozo.com.au implements the
> public site and all the back-office admin that supports it in one
> application. We quite often migrate functions from one user role to another
> and even create new roles as the business expands and more people come on
> board. The public punter doesn't see any of this, of course, but it's all
> there.
>
> For a while, I've been meaning to put up on github a Rails Engine that does
> this, so if you're interested in getting a sneak peek at the code, I'd be
> happy to help you through it.
>
> What's the down side to my solution? Well, if you want 2 deployments, each
> deployment will carry some code that effectively never gets used. I think
> that's a small price to pay for the flexibility and reuse you get.
>
> cheers
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Matt Allen <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi James;
> > Very timely post to the list.  I am currently working on an app for a
> > client that talks to their system through ActiveResource.  It's not
> > difficult to work with, but the gotchas are many.
>
> > Things like you can't use regular relationships, has_many, belongs_to and
> > their cousins don't work between Resource and Record.  I end up making a
> > record of the same name and almost proxying through it.  I end up
> > namespacing the AResource models so as to not confuse the issue.
>
> > Also, testing can be a PITA.  I have just knocked up a FakeWeb
> > "blueprint-esque" type class that puts FakeWeb into a known state.  The main
> > reason for this is that FakeWeb does not look at the POST body, so the URI
> > becomes the key. So if you were posing to say, "/users.xml" to create a user
> > and you wanted to test it failing, you have to clear out the FakeWeb
> > registry and put in one that has the <errors><error>....</error></errors>
> > ActiveResource response to have it fail on you.
>
> > So, my conclusion is that it's *probably* a little to painful to use app
> > wide, luckily the app i'm writing only touches the other system when making
> > payments, so not very often.
>
> > Hope this helps,
> > Matta
>
> > On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 12:14 PM, James Healy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> Hi Folks,
>
> >> I'm in the design stages of a fairly standard new Rails project that
> >> calls for two applications - one for staff and one for customers.
>
> >> The data model for each is identical, and initially at least they will
> >> be hosted on the same machine.
>
> >> The way I've approached this in the past is to share models between the
> >> apps and point them at the same database. This will work, but it strikes
> >> me as the kind of scenario ActiveResource is designed to be used in.
>
> >> ActiveResource has always seemed the poor cousin of the Rails world to
> >> me and I've never used it. Does anyone? Is it worth looking into? Know
> >> of any ActiveResource success (or failure) stories?
>
> >> -- James Healy <[email protected]>  Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:13:48 +1000
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