I know that github does some funky JS to work out their
distance_of_time_in_words, seems to work for them. I don't see anything
wrong with your idea, and it's technically less load on your server.

2009/10/20 David Lee <[email protected]>

> Actually, I'm starting to think the best approach may be to drop the idea
> of server-side timezones entirely, and pass UTC dates to the client, and
> leave the client to render times / dates in an appropriate format:
>
> # ruby
> >> t = Time.now.utc.to_s
> => "Tue Oct 20 09:17:20 UTC 2009"
>
> // javascript
> d = new Date("Tue Oct 20 09:17:20 UTC 2009");
> console.log(d.toLocaleDateString());
> console.log(d.toLocaleTimeString());
>
> 10/20/2009
> 20:17:20
>
> It'd be trivial to accomplish site-wide by dropping UTC date literals
> inside a <span class="utc-date|utc-time"> and dropping something in an
> application-wide page ready handler. This has the additional advantage of
> automatially dealing with the d/m/y vs m/d/y shitfight as well.
>
> waddyareckon?
>
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 7:09 PM, David Lee 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> So .. if I may steer the topic off track slightly, how do you go about
>> setting timezones?
>>
>> I've been using a method based on (new Date ()).getTimezoneOffset() which
>> I hadn't fussed with too much since inheriting the code. Overview here:
>>
>>
>> http://www.hungryfools.com/2008/03/after-2-months-of-extensive-development.html
>>
>> But, after looking into it a little further today, I've come to the
>> conclusion this it's inadequate to simply hand the server an offset and use
>> that to discover a TimeZone. Brisbane and Sydney, for example, both have the
>> same offset, but different DST rules, which will result in obvious
>> inaccuracies in times displayed to the user.
>>
>> I added the ability for a user to fine-tune their timezone after using
>> this method as a 'best guess', but if it's at all possible to get it right
>> without user intervention (and it really should be) I'd prefer to spare them
>> the trouble. A default behaviour of telling you the comment you just posted
>> was actually created an hour in the future or past is, to be frank,
>> pissweak.
>>
>> Recently I came across this approach:
>>
>>
>> http://www.onlineaspect.com/2007/06/08/auto-detect-a-time-zone-with-javascript/
>>
>> which promises to improve the JS autodetection substantially, though I
>> haven't yet tried it out. If it can, I think it definitely deserves to be
>> packaged as a rails plugin which will play nice with restful_auth.
>>
>> Anyone comprehensively solved this? Discussion?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Ryan Bigg <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> What do you mean that it adds a second? For the test I have here it shows
>>> it querying like this:
>>> SELECT * FROM "events" WHERE ("events"."start_time" >= '2009-10-20
>>> 00:00:00' AND "events"."start_time" <= '2009-10-20 23:59:59')
>>>
>>> So everything starting from and including the first second and ending on
>>> and including the final second of that day. Yours will only get up to
>>> 23:59:58. What happens when something happens in that last second? ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/10/20 Jeremy Grant <[email protected]>
>>>
>>> Hey Ryan,
>>>> I've added a branch using by_star called radar, however it fails because
>>>> the following line from lib/shared.rb adds 1 second:
>>>> ["#{field} >= ? AND #{field} <= ?", start_time.utc, end_time.utc]
>>>> it would need to be should be to work
>>>> ["#{field} >= ? AND #{field} < ?", start_time.utc, end_time.utc]
>>>> However, I haven't had time to check if that would the cause other types
>>>> of ranges by_star does.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Jeremy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Ryan Bigg <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Or http://github.com/radar/by_star will let you do:
>>>>> Model.by_day(time)
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/10/19 Lawrence Pit <[email protected]>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Jeremy,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alternatively:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   def self.by_published(time)
>>>>>>     scoped_by_published_at(time.beginning_of_day..time.end_of_day)
>>>>>>   end
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (instead of Date.parse you need to use Time.zone.parse in your tests
>>>>>> though)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lawrence
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah yeah of course, sorry didn't read it properly. I really can't see
>>>>>> why you would do an IN like that though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Lawrence Pit <[email protected]
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The doc is correct.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you use hash conditions with a range having Time objects, you're
>>>>>>> fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you use it with array conditions however, then you're in trouble.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lawrence
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah I think that documentation might be old, since in my test I got
>>>>>>> >= and < not and sql IN when I used a range.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Lawrence Pit <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's described here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://guides.rubyonrails.org/active_record_querying.html#time-and-date-conditions
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lawrence
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Be wary of passing in a Time-based Range object to ActiveRecord's
>>>>>>>> conditions like that as I've seen behaviour where it will check for
>>>>>>>> every second of that range. It could have changed since I've looked
>>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  There's been much discussion re. this on the list so far, with code
>>>>>>>> examples and all. Mind expanding on what exactly Jeremy should be wary
>>>>>>>> of? Code would be good?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- tim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Ryan Bigg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ryan Bigg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> cheers,
>> David Lee
>>
>
>
>
> --
> cheers,
> David Lee
>
> >
>


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