I agree that certification is a fairly unimpressive thing to have on
your resume as someone who would hire a Ruby developer.

However, being that we want to get more people into the community, a
community-built certification program might be the right approach. The
benefit here isn't increased chances of being hired, but just
increasing the number of people actively trying to reach a certain
absolute skill level in our profession. If certification provides a
milestone for learning developers to work towards then we get good
applicants to jobs as a side effect anyway.

Bo

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Ben Schwarz <[email protected]> wrote:
> Good argument Josh, although I'm far less convinced. I'd look sideways
> at anyone who bothered with certification. Open source code speaks far
> greater volumes - After all, we're all supported by open source
> technology.
>
> Those who patch, extend and collaborate in such an environment are
> highly valuable.
> That being said, it won't cause any harm either ;)
>
>
> --
>
> On Feb 21, 8:11 pm, Josh Price <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I think the more balanced answer is that it depends on the context.
>>
>> Like others, I'm generally quite skeptical of certifications as a rule. In 
>> your case however, I think a certification may make a lot of sense.
>>
>> As a newcomer and non-programmer, a certification gives a potential employer 
>> some minimum understanding of your skillset. This is especially useful if 
>> you happen to be bootstrapping your Ruby career, without any commercial 
>> experience.
>>
>> For a lot of the regulars in the Ruby community and particularly those of us 
>> with much more experience, any kind of certification is absolutely useless.
>>
>> As a community, we are in the interesting position where current demand for 
>> Ruby and Rails skills far exceeds supply. Therefore we need to not dismiss 
>> the concept of training or certification just because it doesn't suit us in 
>> our current position. I believe it is potentially useful for those coming 
>> into our industry and community.
>>
>> Josh
>>
>> On 21/02/2010, at 5:39 PM, Navin wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Hello,
>>
>> > As a newcomer to ruby and rails (and as someone working on
>> > rejuvenating a career as a programmer) I am trying to establish how
>> > the "Ruby Association Certified Ruby Programmer" accreditation (http://
>> >www.ruby-assn.org/en/certification.htm) is regarded by this
>> > community.
>>
>> > I am taking an online course with rubylearning.org (and finding it to
>> > be somewhat useful) and following Michael Hartl's excellent Rails
>> > Tutorial as he develops it (railstutorial.org) - also working through
>> > the canonical textbooks on the subject ... Thought I would try and get
>> > some feedback before considering the certification further.
>
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