On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Julio Cesar Ody <[email protected]>wrote:
> Food for thought: none of the icons of our community had to go through > any sort of certification to get to where they are now. All they had > to do was to share their work and knowledge, and the recognition they > got came from that. > Amen. The ruby community is a meritocracy. GitHub profile, employment history, and reputation are certification. But then, On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Lachie <[email protected]> wrote: > Stepping back from the issue another pace, its clear that no pat, > neatly boxed answer ("certification!" or "github!") is a reliable > indicator of employability. > I think that's definitely true, but GitHub profile alone is a pretty good indicator of a combination of skill and experience, which is one major part of employability. That leaves some big questions unanswered, about things like work ethic, pride in one's craft, the ability to integrate with existing teams, etc. I'd argue that certification isn't a good indicator of any of that either. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Lachie <[email protected]> wrote: > For example, if you hire someone based on their passion for open > source, are you hiring the evident coding chops or the coding chops > *and* the enthusiasm for consistent, fine work? And can they apply > that same enthusiasm to the end of a long, unglamorous-but-paid > project? > I think that's where the community really comes into its own. As Linus said, "If you have ever done any security work, and it did not involve the concept of network of trust, it wasn't security work, it was masturbation." [1] We have a truly awesome community, which is built on mutual professional respect, friendship, and a network of trust. I think the community's network of trust is the best indicator of those things, and I think certification tries to simulate it by trying to standardise and enumerate the things on which the network of trust is is built. It misses the point completely though, because the network of trust only works when it's a network. I'm going to be less polite than others: I think certification is completely useless. —ben_h [1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8#t=1645 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en.
