Hi Jono

No blog posts yet - it's something that Pete's been working on, especially at 
Rails Camp this past weekend. If you have a look at an older thread, at the 
last email, you'll get some idea - Ben and Xavier's work has been an influence 
in Machinist's current development.

http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania/browse_thread/thread/55f96edfc1eafa92/8fb0348ee8dc16fa

-- 
Pat

On 21/04/2010, at 2:04 PM, Jono wrote:

> @Ryan
> 
> have you used FG with the machinist syntax?
> 
> i.e. take a look at the "Alternate Syntaxes" section in here:
> http://github.com/thoughtbot/factory_girl
> 
> Do you know if FG still suffers from the same issues under the hood
> once you switch syntaxes? I'll probably spike this anyway but I'm just
> curious if you've already played with it.
> 
> @Pat
> 
> Machinist v2 sounds interesting! Are there any blog posts out there
> with details about it?
> 
> Thanks,
> Jono.
> 
> On Apr 21, 1:50 pm, Ryan Bigg <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I should clarify what I mean by syntax, sorry. By syntax I mean that in
>> factory_girl you can do this to define a named factory:
>> 
>> Factory.define :admin, :class => User do |u|
>>   u.admin               true
>> end
>> 
>> This gives you access to Factory(:admin). But now think about it like this:
>> say you want to set up a three-level relationship between Account, Project
>> and Tickets. You want to create three different setups for testing. To do
>> this in Factory Girl, you'd have to do:
>> 
>> Factory.define :one, :class => Account do |a|
>>   a.name "Blah"
>> end
>> 
>> And then you *could try* to do:
>> 
>> Factory.define :one, :class => Project do |p|
>> 
>> But you'd be overriding the first Factory. You'd instead have to call it
>> something like account_one and project_one, which is just fugly.
>> 
>> In Machinist however, named blueprints are done on the class so you CAN
>> define a blueprint with the same name for two different classes:
>> 
>> Account.blueprint(:one) do
>>   name "Blah"
>> end
>> 
>> Project.blueprint(:one) do
>>   name "Longest project ever."
>> end
>> 
>> And that, is why I love Machinist.
>> 
>> On 21 April 2010 13:39, Pat Allan <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Agreed - I find the syntax of Machinist to be far nicer than Factory Girl.
>>> And there are some *awesome* improvements coming in Machinist v2.
>> 
>>> --
>>> Pat
>> 
>>> On 21/04/2010, at 1:30 PM, Ryan Bigg wrote:
>> 
>>>> Another +1 to Machinist, use it everywhere. Not because Pete is awesome,
>>> but I prefer the syntax for defining named blueprints over named factories.
>> 
>>>> On 21 April 2010 13:13, Julian Doherty <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Using machinist for a few projects at the moment (mainly because it's
>>> pretty useful, not just cause Pete Yandell would give me a disapproving
>>> sneer if I didn't :P )
>> 
>>>> On 21 April 2010 12:59, Jonathan Clarke <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> At Railscamp I think he mentioned that he was working on Machinist 2,
>>> looking forward to checking it out!
>> 
>>>> Jonathan
>> 
>>>> On 21 April 2010 12:55, James Healy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Jono wrote:
>>>>> Does anyone know if there any significant differences between the two
>>>>> libraries apart from syntax that make one stand out from the other?
>> 
>>>> There's at least one significant difference, Machinist is by Pete
>>>> Yandell ('our Pete').
>> 
>>>> Piffle at technical merits, buy Australian! :)
>> 
>>>> -- James Healy <[email protected]>  Wed, 21 Apr 2010 12:53:27 +1000
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